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Zidane

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Cascading endgame?
« on: September 14, 2010, 11:55:35 pm »

I'm had this idea for a needlessly complex, frivilous, and resource consuming way to cause some noble fun.

x = stone
- = bridge
* = pressure plate

               x-*-x
             x-x*x-x
            x-xx*xx-x

This would cause multilevel caveins, kill a noble of your choice, and possibly destroy your entire fort... Do cave in's trigger pressure plates? I have no idea.
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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2010, 12:02:37 am »

I would assume a cave-in just destroys the pressure plate, but you could design it so that the cave-ins destroy the next level of bridges, but that may make the whole thing instant.
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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2010, 12:09:10 am »

Does a cave-in displace water and lava?
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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2010, 12:15:19 am »

You cannot cause cave-ins via bridges, bridges do not provide support.
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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2010, 12:35:05 am »

You cannot cause cave-ins via bridges, bridges do not provide support.

I can work around that.

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               It should work right?, or will the cave in destroy the lava before it can move?

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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2010, 01:37:07 am »

Cave ins go straight trough floors so you could create something that is constantly only supported by floors. Alternatifly you could use supports and the fact that water is moved upwards if a natural wall falls into it

that methode would look something like this (side view)
+ +
bb+bp
  +   +
  W

+ is wall
b=bridge
p=pressure plate
W=water
what happens is the natural walls cave in on the water which then spread to the tiles next to the cave in which have bridges on them so the water flows over them to a pressure plate in order to allow the next cave-in.
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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2010, 01:39:12 am »

why did I stay up till 2am making this, why dorffort, why?

Completely normal. Don't fight it.
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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2010, 10:49:53 am »

You could use ice to trigger the pressure plates?

When ice caves in it creates 7/7 water as far as I know.
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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2010, 03:29:41 pm »

I could make a stone walkway supported by pillars, each pressure plate activates the pillar holding up the block before it.

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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2010, 04:00:26 pm »

You've got a bit to learn about cave-ins here.  Any floor-level item, be it a natural carved floor, a hatch, a bridge or a built floor will completely fail to stop a cave-in if it's not supported underneath by a natural or constructed wall, and a natural cave-in will completely destroy anything it directly lands on.  It won't trigger your pressure plates in the way you're hoping, but if you're inventive with your floor supports you can build a system which will allow a smaller cave-in to cause a larger one by destroying the floor tiles supporting a lower level.
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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2010, 08:06:02 pm »

So... Who can simulate Conway's game of life using cave-ins?  Each level is a generation.
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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2010, 09:29:24 pm »

You've got a bit to learn about cave-ins here.  Any floor-level item, be it a natural carved floor, a hatch, a bridge or a built floor will completely fail to stop a cave-in if it's not supported underneath by a natural or constructed wall, and a natural cave-in will completely destroy anything it directly lands on.  It won't trigger your pressure plates in the way you're hoping, but if you're inventive with your floor supports you can build a system which will allow a smaller cave-in to cause a larger one by destroying the floor tiles supporting a lower level.

Hrm, could you link the supports to activated levers (Using a not logic setup if necessary) and have the levers set up to be smashed by the cavein?
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Re: Cascading endgame?
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2010, 10:36:14 pm »

So... Who can simulate Conway's game of life using cave-ins?  Each level is a generation.

Wouldn't that be effectively more a linear cellular automaton than a Conway's implementation?
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