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[Urist McIsaac]

After a long day of mining Urist McMiner needs to sit down and have a nice drink of his dwarven ale, and a long smoke on his fine crafted pipe.
I think it would be cool to make it so your dwarfs can cultivate smoke-able plants and craft pipes from wood, stone, metal, and jewels. Also you would be able to make smoking zones for your dwarfs, so the miasma like mist coming from the pipes won't bother your dwarfs you don't like smoking.   

[hvlkn]

and if they get caught growing certain smokeable plants they can get locked up. Sounds fun

[TheyTarget]

Maybe, but we don't need to get into illegal drugs, that just seems to far for dwarf fort, we don't need to make a political statement.
I don't see why this would be needed, but I mean, it could exists, as a little thing you can do to make dwarfs happy. Dwarfs buy pipes, and smoke when they are on break or something. Works for me.

[Mckee]

It would add another aspect to dwarven personality. Urist: likes to smoke often, Smokes when stressed, smokes sometimes, dislikes smoking, hates smoking etc...

It adds an important trade good, which when the caravan and dimplomacy arcs are expanded, adds a layer of competition and possible conflict. Adds to agriculture too and provides a mature fort something else to deal with. Pipes are yet another craft and possible health aspects are interesting to say the least. Would give some none combat injuries to deal with eventually.

[SirHoneyBadger]

You can add scrimshaw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrimshaw (walrus and whale bone/tusk carving), bone pipes, meerschaum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meerschaum, horn, vegetable crafting (corncob pipes/pigtail pipes), glassblowing (hookas), and ivory to the game

[truckman1]

What if various smokable had different side-effects for different situations? So some parallel to meth could make them able to work diligently, nonstop without needing to eat or sleep, but makes them extremely prone to tantrums.

Or during a siege of HFS, order your army to smoke some PCP so they can RIP AND TEAR.


edit: Oh, and it would be cool to make pipes out of elf skulls. Then find a way to light them with magma.

[Vercingetorix]

I'd like to see that myself, especially since it would create an entire new industry for whatever crop is used; you'd need to grow it and cure it before it could be smoked and then it would finally be ready for consumption.  It would be even more interesting if said crop was only growable in a limited number of biomes to make it a useful and valuable trade good.

It should be one of those little things that make dwarves happy; when it becomes more difficult to keep dwarves happy, having ways for them to blow off steam will be much more important.  Pipes, games, musical instruments, bards and all that would be pretty essential alongside alcohol to keeping them happy and hard-working.

[Medicine Man]

I agree. Dwarfs should get a happy thought from smoking and possibly some negative and positive effects and the more powerful the smoke plant, the better/worse the effects and the higher the chance of getting addicted. Addiction should cause a negative thought if the dwarf has not had his drug in a certain amount of time, the longer the time the worse the thought.

Dwarven leaders should attempt to ban a drug if it has killed enough dwarfs.

[Auto Slaughter]

This is such an absolutely awesome idea.  Yes yes yes.  Fistfights should start from smokers lighting up in meeting areas around dwarves who dislike the smell of smoke.

Thumbs down on the idea of illegal drugs though, that would be totally anachronistic.  The earliest mention I've heard of illegal drugs is opium being outlawed in 18th centuring Qing China during the opium wars... at the same time opium and laudanum were entirely legal in Britain, which is part of why the British just thought the Chinese were being whiny legalist anti-free-trade authoritarians.

In the West drugs don't get outlawed until the 20th century (except maybe some pre-Prohibition "dry towns" in the U.S.)... after all the usual pseudo-conservative agitiation about "jazz weed" that only the degenerate lesser races of Negros and Mexicans smoked.  (But as far as making political statements... unrestricted and enthusiastic consumption of and addiction to booze, anyone?  The only reason that doesn't seem like a political statement, much less a drug addiction, is that it's not 1920.  Once industrial-level corporate interests developed for alcohol and tobacco developed they became unimpeachably acceptable social drugs.)

Love the idea of intoxicant effects for certain smokeables, though... greater focus and stamina from coca leaves (only grows in tropical biomes) or tobacco... a really great one would be opium addiction.  Dwarves become lethargic with increased risk of melancholy from opium, of course.  How about merchants bringing opium and addicted dwarves violating "broker trade only" and giving away all of their personal possessions, possibly stealing from others, to get their next fix?

[Owlbread]

I'm just entertaining the wonderful idea of an exceedingly wealthy Dwarven Baron lying outstretched in his recreational area, smoking, whilst appearing skeletally thin with incredibly long fingernails and beard.

[Eagleon]

Would be a nice addition to the syndrome system, if different material states could have different syndromes. Then flaming booze would be the least of your worries in a stockpile fire, hehe. Pipes, etc, would just be a handy and safe way of ensuring your dwarves -want- to smoke what you've defined as a droog in the raws, and then particularly unstable or moody dwarves could try experimenting with various forgotten beast excretions.

I also foresee amusing situations in adventure mode, with people trying to smoke cave spider venom, etc.

[Medicine Man]

Smoke !!Elf Blood!! you know you want to.

[Urist McMick]

I WANTS AN ELF SKULL BONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Also "Urdim McPothead cancels haul item: Freaking out"

[Medicine Man]

I WANTS AN ELF SKULL BONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Also "Urdim McPothead cancels haul item: Freaking out"

What mannnnnnnn?

[Urist McMick]

I WANTS AN ELF SKULL BONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Also "Urdim McPothead cancels haul item: Freaking out"

What mannnnnnnn?

What? Can a man not dream of getting high from the skull of the Elf Queen?