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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 13002614 times)

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #125055 on: August 06, 2017, 11:01:10 pm »

So this is kinda just something I thought of that I'm done pondering over in my head. It makes zero sense to me why fans cool you down. I mean think about it, heat comes from the motion of atoms. That's not just an outdated science fact, right? So why would a fan, which just moves air, make you cooler when realistically it's making the air hotter by an incredibly small amount? So why doesn't a fan make you hotter?

It evaporates the sweat on your skin man. Same reason if it's 100% (or w/e) humidity, then you can't cool down even in low-ish temperatures.
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« Reply #125056 on: August 06, 2017, 11:01:21 pm »

Normally your body is hotter than the surrounding air. So your heat naturally dissipates out into the air. But as that happens, you're making the air immediately around you hotter, which in turn makes it harder for more heat to escape your body. If the air is moving, new, cooler air is passing over your body constantly, making it easier to cool off.
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« Reply #125057 on: August 06, 2017, 11:14:00 pm »

So this is kinda just something I thought of that I'm done pondering over in my head. It makes zero sense to me why fans cool you down. I mean think about it, heat comes from the motion of atoms. That's not just an outdated science fact, right? So why would a fan, which just moves air, make you cooler when realistically it's making the air hotter by an incredibly small amount? So why doesn't a fan make you hotter?

Saying that heat comes from the motion of atoms is one of those statements that's correct depending on how it's clarified. It is possible, for instance, for something very cold to be moving very quickly. 'Heat' refers to a chaotic motion of particles, and thus is unrelated to most kinds of purposeful motions.

A person who is hot radiates heat into the air around them, based both on convection (the heating most people think about) and by thermal radiation (You are Radioactive Man! Sorry, it's slightly less thrilling than people make it out to be). If the temperature is in the 80-95 range and the air is still, this means you're surrounded by air that's picked up most of the heat it can from your skin, and by waving a hand fan you can move that air out of the way and replace it with new, cooler air. Now, friction both at the surface of your skin and the surface of the fan will increase the temperature of the air, but that is a very minute effect unless the speeds are absurdly high, and then you have other problems.

Now, if the temperature is above human core temp (98.6), using a fan is still refreshing, because you're very likely sweating. Sweat is water, and water likes to be free and evaporate into the air. This change of phase (liquid to gas) requires some amount of energy, and it also requires there be relatively little humidity (already present water vapor). If the air is still, your body will rapidly humidify the air around you, and thus lose the ability to cool via evaporation. By fanning yourself while sweaty, you feel much cooler (even if the air you're moving across your body is in excess of your core temp) because the phase change taking place on the surface of your skin is taking energy from your flesh.

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« Reply #125058 on: August 06, 2017, 11:40:46 pm »

Dragnen gave a good explanation I suppose, but yea if you wanna be cool grab a fan or at least put some water on yourself, tho this is less useful if you're in a hot and humid place. Keep hydrated and run away if your country goes over 20c regularly, too warm tbh.
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« Reply #125059 on: August 06, 2017, 11:52:27 pm »

One tray of ice into a tub of cold water.  Allow to sit until the ice melts. Stir the water. Sit in the water.

This will lower your body temperature below environmental levels, allowing you to operate in the environment again comfortably.  I did something similar when I went to scout camp (waaaaaaay back) in 106F weather. The camp was driven by well water (so a nice 50F), so I filled the rain barrel up, and used it as a cold water jacuzzi. Did eventually get in trouble, but it was VERY popular with the rest of the troupe in that weather. Sure beat sweating in hot humid weather.
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« Reply #125060 on: August 07, 2017, 06:47:56 am »

One tray of ice into a tub of cold water.  Allow to sit until the ice melts. Stir the water. Sit in the water.

This will lower your body temperature below environmental levels, allowing you to operate in the environment again comfortably.  I did something similar when I went to scout camp (waaaaaaay back) in 106F weather. The camp was driven by well water (so a nice 50F), so I filled the rain barrel up, and used it as a cold water jacuzzi. Did eventually get in trouble, but it was VERY popular with the rest of the troupe in that weather. Sure beat sweating in hot humid weather.
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« Reply #125061 on: August 07, 2017, 08:39:03 am »

This feels like one of those things that only I didn't know xD Thanks for telling me!

Keep hydrated and run away if your country goes over 20c regularly, too warm tbh.

I live in Texas, so I've had to deal with 100 degrees before (in Fahrenheit because I'm a dumb American). Honestly I can't wait to get out.

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« Reply #125062 on: August 07, 2017, 08:56:12 am »

Gases aren't particularly great at conducting heat, which is why when you open an oven that's been at 400F it doesn't cook your face.

Ain't it a dry heat in Texas?
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« Reply #125063 on: August 07, 2017, 09:09:16 am »

Ain't it a dry heat in Texas?

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« Reply #125064 on: August 07, 2017, 09:46:31 am »

I live in Texas, so I've had to deal with 100 degrees before (in Fahrenheit because I'm a dumb American). Honestly I can't wait to get out

Sorry to hear this. It's alright man one day you will escape!!
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« Reply #125066 on: August 07, 2017, 10:04:19 am »

I live in Texas, so I've had to deal with 100 degrees before (in Fahrenheit because I'm a dumb American). Honestly I can't wait to get out.

Sorry to hear this. It's alright man one day you will escape!!

The heat isn't so bad once you get used to it to be honest. Once you get over the fact that it's literally over 100 degrees, you sort of just forget about it and focus on the worst part: ants. More specifically, fire ants that are desperate for water and willing to swarm you just to consume your sweat. Any water or food product of any kind is going to become a massive pile of ants in a short period of time. Now that's a problem a fan can't fix.

The stylish black cloaks of the Game of Thrones rangers is actually made from cheap IKEA rugs xD

I don't watch game of thrones, but I still find that hilarious for so many reasons.

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« Reply #125067 on: August 07, 2017, 10:12:45 am »

The stylish black cloaks of the Game of Thrones rangers is actually made from cheap IKEA rugs xD

Shouldn't surprise you that those Hollywood costume designers can work miracles from cheap materials.
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« Reply #125068 on: August 07, 2017, 10:20:13 am »

I live in Texas, so I've had to deal with 100 degrees before (in Fahrenheit because I'm a dumb American). Honestly I can't wait to get out.

Sorry to hear this. It's alright man one day you will escape!!

The heat isn't so bad once you get used to it to be honest. Once you get over the fact that it's literally over 100 degrees, you sort of just forget about it and focus on the worst part: ants. More specifically, fire ants that are desperate for water and willing to swarm you just to consume your sweat. Any water or food product of any kind is going to become a massive pile of ants in a short period of time. Now that's a problem a fan can't fix.

Clearly you haven't tried a bigger fan!
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« Reply #125069 on: August 07, 2017, 11:19:45 am »

Not really a wtf, but not sure where else to put it.

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Is it just me or is that referencing both Matrim Cauthon from WoT and Kvothe from Name of the Wind?
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