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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #131805 on: March 21, 2018, 10:27:04 am »

Now pro/con/[???]: we're on the cusp of replacing a ton of people's jobs with robots. Which will either take some pressure off or make everything five times worse, depending how well it's handled.
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« Reply #131806 on: March 21, 2018, 10:43:47 am »

Welcome to the age of: GMI is justifiable but won't be implemented for another 40 years.
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« Reply #131807 on: March 21, 2018, 10:50:30 am »

Is that UBI but a different acronym?
Because I’m still deciding if I’m against it.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #131808 on: March 21, 2018, 11:08:54 am »

guaranteed minimum income.

Yes, and I mean, I'm not 'for it', however I think its necessary if and when we obsolete human labor to such an extent that people will largely go unemployed unless they want to better themselves and find work.  To simply my position.
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« Reply #131809 on: March 21, 2018, 11:17:59 am »

Eventually, algorithms will be better than humans at nearly all forms of work. It is the endgame of automation.
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« Reply #131810 on: March 21, 2018, 11:21:59 am »

More now pros: Political stability in most places in the world for the time being (RIP Ukraine and the middle east)
Also, fifty years ago when things were better, a few thousand people died in London during a calm because of toxic smog.
So, maybe environment can go on there too.

I don't live in other places. I'm comparing my home to my home's past. Apologies for not stating it, I figured it would not be necessary to point it out.


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more effort being made to protect the environment

Nope, more liberalism means environmental protections are more and more at risk every day.

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better care for mental health, the Internet.

Scientific and technical advances.

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I’ll be honest, those additional pros aren’t really that great, but the truth is, you really undersell the value of “More cultural tolerance towards many people and groups”. Most of those things you mentioned aren’t really worth anything if you’re constantly being persecuted for who you are.

That's ridiculous. Even setting aside how I doubt much tolerance improvement would have happened without the general prosperity of the period, those are things that are good for everyone, regardless of who they are.


Eh. I'd give the less liberalism and more socialism, if question how much the former was actually a pro (assuming the european usage of the term, anyway; less of the american one was unquestionably not a pro) relative to conditions at the time. The messy bits of that stuff were just starting to take off around that point, far as I can recall, and the junk can be useful in small quantities.

Liberalism was the sole cause of why society was as bad as it was in the way it was in the 19th and early 20th century. Socialism the sole cause of why things got better.

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Economy being stronger depends a hell of a lot on what you mean by that. It was certainly growing faster, but that only means so much at the end of the day. In most ways the economy today could bend the economy of yesteryear over its knee and snap it in half, and some of the ways it can't are probably for the better.

Stronger economy meant more people were getting richer and more fulfilling lives for their work, which leads us to -

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Wealth disparity and class differences don't look like they were shrinking, either, or at the absolute least not much... holding steady, though, sure. Which I'd agree is an improvement if it weren't for the fact that that holding steady was apparently building the base for both of those to start shooting up in the 70s-80s. Organized crime I can't find info worth a damn on. Be pretty surprised if its influence has increased much relative to a half century ago, though. Raw size, probably, but most things have on that front what with the extra however many people piddling around.

Sweden has the fastest growing class differences of any OECD country. Discrepancies are also growing not just economically but also service-wise, ie regarding healthcare, education, infrastructure, and so on.

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Solidarity and a will to work together with your fellow man to create a better society for all, instead of just for yourself at any cost?

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Plenty of people (if you're talking ethnic groups) were dying off, and as a general thing the statement's bullshit unless you're thinking of a specific one -- humanity's population is still cheerfully rising, so our "people" are doing alright so far as propagation goes.


Humanity is not a people, and I was talking my people, the Swedes.

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Police and the legal system were at least as fucked up back then. What's changed is awareness more than the rot in those particular sorts of institutions. Similarly corruption was sodding rampant, to the point most things these days are an improvement. It's just a hell of a lot harder to hide the shit and people seem to be somewhat less blaise about casual corruption.

A search on Dagens Nyheter for the term "police crisis
Articles from Svenska Dagbladet under the heading "police crisis"
Articles from Swedish Television under the heading "police crisis"
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #131811 on: March 21, 2018, 11:23:27 am »

There will always be an elite creme of the crop, and having a job will be the dividing line.  And I think it will be the point of contention in the future; the glass ceiling of tomorrow.

And I'd really rather not be on the wrong side of it.
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« Reply #131812 on: March 21, 2018, 11:27:00 am »

Being an author might be the only job left, eventually.

While machines are getting "better" at it, I wouldn't call their generated writings top quality, nor original.  That might change given enough time, but being an author might be among the last bastions of human vocation in the end-game age of automation-- that and vocations that humans find more comfortable being done by other humans, like healthcare. (the healthcare workers might take orders from the robot overlord, but the human patient or elderly resident would likely prefer having a real human to do the actual care and treatments.)

There's also the sex industry. ;P
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« Reply #131813 on: March 21, 2018, 11:29:25 am »

There will always be an elite creme of the crop, and having a job will be the dividing line.  And I think it will be the point of contention in the future; the glass ceiling of tomorrow.

And I'd really rather not be on the wrong side of it.
Being an author might be the only job left, eventually.

While machines are getting "better" at it, I wouldn't call their generated writings top quality, nor original.  That might change given enough time, but being an author might be among the last bastions of human vocation in the end-game age of automation-- that and vocations that humans find more comfortable being done by other humans, like healthcare. (the healthcare workers might take orders from the robot overlord, but the human patient or elderly resident would likely prefer having a real human to do the actual care and treatments.)

There's also the sex industry. ;P

Or perhaps the term 'having a job' would be completely redefined. Both of you are using 'have/ing a job' as the definition is right now.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #131814 on: March 21, 2018, 11:35:34 am »

Being an author might be the only job left, eventually.

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« Reply #131815 on: March 21, 2018, 11:39:00 am »

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I cant be the only one who instinctively links that guy with this guy, can I?
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« Reply #131816 on: March 21, 2018, 11:41:00 am »

:)

I think of raptors.  Or t-rex
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #131817 on: March 21, 2018, 11:42:27 am »

Seriously go listen to the podcast it is amazing. He has a podcast now.

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« Reply #131818 on: March 21, 2018, 11:46:00 am »

Oh no-- There is ALWAYS a common theme in Chuck's books.

(apologies for the very crude and offensive aphorism)

"Fairy boys", who get "Pounded in the ass"

I can clearly see Mr Tingle (Zelda franchise), being Chuck Tingle (Author)-- shouting "TINGLE--INGLE-- OOO!!!" while furiously brushing his latest "literary masterpiece."

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« Reply #131819 on: March 21, 2018, 12:21:59 pm »

I think you mean by Ganondorf's castle
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