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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 7149772 times)

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #134205 on: May 31, 2018, 09:52:46 pm »

Something is sexist simply when someone is treated differently because of their sex(except the extremely few cases in which there actually is an important difference, such as keeping pregnant women out of dangerous professions.) which includes but is not limited to prejudiced beliefs about sex, and harmful actions against people because of their sex.
I don't think that we should say that it's bad to not completely ignore sex. It still carries some statistical information.

That is an awfully constructed sentence :p

I am also tired. From the context, though, you think that we shouldn’t ignore sex ‘cause it still has some, if negligible, application?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #134206 on: May 31, 2018, 11:00:54 pm »

Every time I encounter one of the muh magic free market people I just have a WTF. Like seriously it does not take a genius to see the massive glaring flaws that exist in the entire premise. It's like they ignore all evidence entirely and operate in magic fantasy land. Also the mere fact that ancaps exist. Good god they are idiots.


Also arguments that go basically: person/something in the past did horrible things. But the world is better now then then and thing is related through some connection. Therefor all actions were justified, nessisary, and in fact good. How dare you criticize them don't you know the world is so great because of them! It's the definition of circular logic. That shit drives me crazy. These people seem totally unable to conceptualize any alternative path at all and follow the blind assumption that because thing exists now it must be the best because surely only the best things win.
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« Reply #134207 on: May 31, 2018, 11:29:29 pm »

AH YES. THE ADORABLE DAMASCUS GOAT
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The people of Damascus appear to have high proclivity towards folding things unto themselves. These goats must have been folded at least gorillion times. I bet they can cut a tank in half.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #134208 on: June 01, 2018, 02:39:05 am »

Every time I encounter one of the muh magic free market people I just have a WTF. Like seriously it does not take a genius to see the massive glaring flaws that exist in the entire premise. It's like they ignore all evidence entirely and operate in magic fantasy land.
I read that as "magic-free market" and imagined a bazaar with strict regulations about not allowing magical practitioners within its limits, for the economic (and personal!) safety of the common magicless.

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« Reply #134209 on: June 01, 2018, 03:22:07 am »

My ancient PSP-1000's screen has started looking like it has absorbed oil or something, and the button strip that has the select button it--- has the select button stop working.

I was able to order replacement parts for 22.50 on amazon.

It's only a 12 year old console-- shocked that parts are still available.
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« Reply #134210 on: June 01, 2018, 04:56:36 am »

Heh, I have one of those, bought new in 2007 as my second game system (first was a GBA). At the time I was between PCs due to moving for a job and leaving my old one (an 900 MHz Windows 98 system) at home, so that PSP was my gaming life-line.

The guy I was living with was a real "the bible is the only book you need" type and I was 16 so I couldn't get a library card without a guardian's signature (which he refused to provide), but I could buy a PSP. Needless to say, rather than spending most of my time reading like I did at home, I spent it playing Splinter Cell, SoCom, FF Tactics, WipeOut, and Tomb Raider (to name my favorites).

It still has a fond place in my heart, but it sits on a shelf and has not been touched for some years now (when put there it was starting to have trouble reading UMDs reliably).
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« Reply #134211 on: June 01, 2018, 05:33:54 am »

(Mutters quietly about being able to play PSP game isos direclty off the memory stick if you use CFW.  Further mutters quietly about being able to get a microSD to memorystick adapter that works with honking huge SD cards. *has a 128gb microSD inside his. Works great.)
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« Reply #134212 on: June 01, 2018, 08:36:09 am »

Talisman Emperor, when you're saying things like
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It’s only a distance of 5,000 km, I’ll surely be able to find you.

I get the feeling either your writer or your translator is playing fast and very loose with the concept of distance.

For reference, that's a bit over 3,000 miles, and the USA is about 2,600 miles wide and less that tall. That "only" is larger than the continental US, and it's being stated a surety to be able to find someone in it.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #134213 on: June 01, 2018, 08:56:22 am »

Something is sexist simply when someone is treated differently because of their sex(except the extremely few cases in which there actually is an important difference, such as keeping pregnant women out of dangerous professions.) which includes but is not limited to prejudiced beliefs about sex, and harmful actions against people because of their sex.
I don't think that we should say that it's bad to not completely ignore sex. It still carries some statistical information.

That is an awfully constructed sentence :p

I am also tired. From the context, though, you think that we shouldn’t ignore sex ‘cause it still has some, if negligible, application?
Yes. The definition of sexism that Pikachu gave is binary and one-drop (is there a better word for this? this might be too racial). I was thinking of an Ideal Bayesian Mind, and how it would take all information into account and consider it proportionally to its strength and uncertainty to construct a maximally-accurate model of reality. That's the optimal mind, along one dimension, and I think it should be good to approximate it. Ridiculous thought experiment - if I have to pick a man or a woman to lift a heavy weight, and all I know is that they were randomly selected from the world's population, I would pick the man. That's carefully set up so that all else is equal, which it almost never is, but as we get better at modeling the world (with computers, perhaps), we will probably reach the point where we can increase the accuracy of the social-interaction model by including a sex variable which slightly adjusts the expected propensity to smile, or something like that. (If we're not already there!)

TL;DR: most people treat sex as carrying more information than it does, but it still carries a non-zero amount of information even in non-medical contexts. Adjust downward instead of banning the use entirely.
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« Reply #134214 on: June 01, 2018, 02:12:36 pm »

(Mutters quietly about being able to play PSP game isos direclty off the memory stick if you use CFW.

I'm sure both Sony and Nintendo would be horrified, but I drug the old system down and managed to get the SNES version of Donkey Kong Country 3 running on it. Amazingly, it seems the 11 year old battery still holds a good charge, or at least it seems to last a decent amount of time. On the other hand, my 2GB memeory stick seems to not work, but the 1GB one still seems good.

Wow, I remember when that 1GB stick cost me more than $30...
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« Reply #134215 on: June 01, 2018, 05:07:21 pm »

Don’t know if I should put this in the AmeriPol thread or here, maybe both? http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/05/31/school-shootings-this-cannon-fires-unbelievable-ammo-to-blast-through-walls-and-help-rescue-victims.html

I don’t care what side of the gun debate you’re on, schools aren’t fortresses and I’m pretty sure there’s usually planning before using it and by the time the siege engine squad arrived, it’d be too late.
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« Reply #134216 on: June 01, 2018, 05:32:47 pm »

That FOX article actually reads like a paid infomercial for the company that makes the cannon.

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For example, cannons could be positioned in advance to protect 4th of July crowds. If a terrorist drove at the crowd, the cannon could blast the water bottle that would tear through the vehicle and stop the attack.

A blunt projectile that can "tear through" a charging car? And we're going to position these all around large crowds of people?

I'd be more worried about one of these cannons discharging and firing a wall-busting blunt rocket into a packed crowd. What would the stopping distance of that actually be?

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« Reply #134217 on: June 01, 2018, 05:40:15 pm »

It’s still a wtf that they’re (both Fox and the person who came up with the idea) even entertaining the idea at all.

And yeah, whoever fires that at a car in the middle of a crowd better hope that they have savant level aiming skills.
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« Reply #134218 on: June 01, 2018, 05:49:06 pm »

BK what are you doing

4 piece chicken nugget, 1.29 (~.32 per)

10 piece 1.69 (.16)

20 piece 4.99 (.24)

Like okay. The smallest amount being the most expensive is normal. The largest being 150% the next smallest down is not. It's cheaper to buy two tens than one twenty. Three ten orders is roughly the same price as a single twenty.

I can guess it's a (functioning, presumably) trap for the inattentive but the pricing scheme on your menu shouldn't be making me look at it funny, dagnabbit!
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« Reply #134219 on: June 01, 2018, 06:24:16 pm »

I can guess it's a (functioning, presumably) trap for the inattentive but the pricing scheme on your menu shouldn't be making me look at it funny, dagnabbit!

There are some examples where adding in additional crappy choices that no logical person would ever make can change people's decision making about the remaining choices. There was a TED talk about this.

One example was for a magazine subscription. The choices were something like

(1) $30 digital subscription
(2) $125 print subscription
(3) $125 print plus digital subscription.

Clearly, choice 3 is a dominant choice over choice 2. People think "well I might as well get the digital as well since it costs no more". In this scenario, about 2/3rds of people express the preference for choice 3. However, tests were done with removing the "useless" choice 2, and suddenly, 80% choose choice 1 instead. i.e. nobody capable of reading ever picks choice 2, yet the presence of choice 2 changes how we evaluate the quality of the remaining choices.

There were a number of other examples given. One was

(1) All-expenses-paid Rome holiday for 1 week
(2) All-expenses-paid Paris holiday for 1 week

Asked which one to choose, respondents were pretty much 50/50. However, they did the experiment with a third choice, one of either:

(3a) All-expenses-paid Rome holiday for 1 week. Except coffee with breakfast costs 2 euros.
(3b) All-expenses-paid Paris holiday for 1 week. Except coffee with breakfast costs 2 euros.

In other words, they added the smallest and least-consequential negative thing that you could add to an all-expenses paid trip to Rome or Paris. However, test subjects shown (3a) suddenly love Paris with coffee, more than paris-without-coffee, but paradoxically, also more than Rome-with-coffee. If you showed them (3b) instead, which is rome-without-coffee, then they love regular Rome and don't like Paris any more. This is how fucked we are at making decisions.

Another example was they showed two photos of guys to women, got them to pick the most handsome. Again 50/50. But then they made "ugly" versions of both guys. Call the guys Adam and Bill. If you saw "ugly Adam" then regular Adam looks better, even better than Bill, and if you saw "ugly Bill" then Bill looks better, even better than Adam. So the take away is that your wing-man should be a slightly uglier version of whatever you look like.

Now let's consider the BK menu.

First, notice that there's not much difference between the 4 piece pack and 10 piece pack in price. So people would go "might as well get a 10 piece pack then". But also notice that two 10 piece packs have the same amount as a 20 piece pack, despite being much cheaper. Now, not only have you convinced yourself that a 10 piece pack is better value than a 4 piece pack, if you only buy one pack you start to feel you're missing out because you didn't get 20 pieces. So, maybe you only wanted 4 pieces to start with, but you've talked yourself into buying 20 now. i.e. nobody in their right mind ever picks Option 3, but it's still there for a reason, because it makes the other options look better, and causes people to buy extra so as to not "miss out" on the "saving".
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