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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 6964619 times)

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« Reply #134340 on: June 05, 2018, 11:23:20 am »

Here's the kicker:

What if the planetary system you colonize has a retrograde orbit compared to the galactic plane's rotation?

(EG, all the planets in the system orbit in the opposite direction, and all the axis of rotation for those planets is reversed, resulting in the sun rising in the west, and setting in the east.)

Good luck obeying those religious edicts about facing mecca. :P

And if we ever colonize a planet that is tidally locked to it's star? Good luck!

Most of the religions I know of with observances tied to specific astronomical events also include a general rule that their adherents will not be expected to do the impossible, as well as a provision for their clergy (or equivalent) to issue guidance in cases not covered by dogma.

Thus, as fun as it is to speculate about, in the unlikely event that we ever do reach other planets the most probable solution is to simply do whatever's reasonably achievable on a case-by-case basis. In most cases we might expect this to be designating some point fixed relative to the habitat for people to pray towards and working out a local conversion of the lunar/solar calendar.
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« Reply #134341 on: June 05, 2018, 11:34:43 am »

On the topic of ramadan, meanwhile in the Netherlands there is some discussion whether muslims should be allowed to drive a bus, or work any other job where they are responsible for the safety of others, during the ramadan.
So far, there's no research showing that fasting during the day diminshes reaction times or general alertness though.

This is just my own experience: fasting actually dramatically increases my alertness and reaction times. Just something about being hungry that keeps me awake and mindful, while having a full stomach makes me feel slow, sleepy, and lethargic. Though I imagine this might be a quirk of biology that varies from person to person.
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« Reply #134343 on: June 05, 2018, 11:51:30 am »

There's a missed opportunity there, since there's a great Russian version of the Evangelion opening.

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« Reply #134344 on: June 05, 2018, 11:56:05 am »

There's a missed opportunity there, since there's a great Russian version of the Evangelion opening.

There is one that does use it, I just don't like it as much as the other.

Edit: I found this gem while looking at the Russian version of Evangelion. Not real apparently, but still great.
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« Reply #134345 on: June 05, 2018, 11:58:03 am »

Edit: I found this gem while looking at the Russian version of Evangelion.
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« Reply #134346 on: June 05, 2018, 12:42:33 pm »

Here's the kicker:

What if the planetary system you colonize has a retrograde orbit compared to the galactic plane's rotation?

(EG, all the planets in the system orbit in the opposite direction, and all the axis of rotation for those planets is reversed, resulting in the sun rising in the west, and setting in the east.)

Good luck obeying those religious edicts about facing mecca. :P

And if we ever colonize a planet that is tidally locked to it's star? Good luck!

Most of the religions I know of with observances tied to specific astronomical events also include a general rule that their adherents will not be expected to do the impossible, as well as a provision for their clergy (or equivalent) to issue guidance in cases not covered by dogma.

Thus, as fun as it is to speculate about, in the unlikely event that we ever do reach other planets the most probable solution is to simply do whatever's reasonably achievable on a case-by-case basis. In most cases we might expect this to be designating some point fixed relative to the habitat for people to pray towards and working out a local conversion of the lunar/solar calendar.
I think Muslims are forbidden to travel to other planets anyways. IIRC there was a fatwa covering that about a decade ago. Not sure if it's for all muslims, or just Sunni / Shii specific.
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« Reply #134347 on: June 05, 2018, 12:49:08 pm »

I think Muslims are forbidden to travel to other planets anyways. IIRC there was a fatwa covering that about a decade ago. Not sure if it's for all muslims, or just Sunni / Shii specific.



Muslims can't... wait a second, you're right.

Huh.
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« Reply #134348 on: June 05, 2018, 12:53:59 pm »

Here's the kicker:

What if the planetary system you colonize has a retrograde orbit compared to the galactic plane's rotation?

(EG, all the planets in the system orbit in the opposite direction, and all the axis of rotation for those planets is reversed, resulting in the sun rising in the west, and setting in the east.)

Good luck obeying those religious edicts about facing mecca. :P

And if we ever colonize a planet that is tidally locked to it's star? Good luck!

Most of the religions I know of with observances tied to specific astronomical events also include a general rule that their adherents will not be expected to do the impossible, as well as a provision for their clergy (or equivalent) to issue guidance in cases not covered by dogma.

Thus, as fun as it is to speculate about, in the unlikely event that we ever do reach other planets the most probable solution is to simply do whatever's reasonably achievable on a case-by-case basis. In most cases we might expect this to be designating some point fixed relative to the habitat for people to pray towards and working out a local conversion of the lunar/solar calendar.
I think Muslims are forbidden to travel to other planets anyways. IIRC there was a fatwa covering that about a decade ago. Not sure if it's for all muslims, or just Sunni / Shii specific.

So much for the Iranian space program then, huh? Don't know what the reasoning behind that is other than 'AAAH! We can't figure out a way to pray towards Mecca on other planets, so lets not!'

Makes no sense to me, but if they want to lose out on joining the rest of humanity in space, not my problem. I bet saner heads will prevail eventually.

I think Muslims are forbidden to travel to other planets anyways. IIRC there was a fatwa covering that about a decade ago. Not sure if it's for all muslims, or just Sunni / Shii specific.



Muslims can't... wait a second, you're right.

Huh.

Oh, it has to do do with the one-way trip thing which some leaders were saying was tantamount to suicide. I can understand them being leery about a colonization effort with zero chance of a return trip.

All the more reason to practice colonization on the Moon, right?
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« Reply #134349 on: June 05, 2018, 01:02:11 pm »

There was also a mention that the people leaving could possibly be fleeing some manner of religious punishment, and we can't have that since apparently God can't get you if you're in space.

I'm paraphrasing a wee bit.
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« Reply #134350 on: June 05, 2018, 01:08:15 pm »

Going with that line of logic, if god can't get you when you're in space, then Christians shouldn't be in space either, but hey, that's not an issue because god doesn't exist! Also, if god doesn't exist in space, then he isn't omnipresent either! lol the reasoning. /end religion trolling

What they're really saying is that the religious authorities can't get you if you're in space and they don't want you to run away from them.
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« Reply #134351 on: June 05, 2018, 01:15:44 pm »

Going with that line of logic, if god can't get you when you're in space, then Christians shouldn't be in space either, but hey, that's not an issue because god doesn't exist! Also, if god doesn't exist in space, then he isn't omnipresent either! lol the reasoning. /end religion trolling

What they're really saying is that the religious authorities can't get you if you're in space and they don't want you to run away from them.

I laughed.

Also, basically that second part. You might not be on the approved list of "people meant to exist" and they need to properly keep you under their heel. It's only civilized. /end cynicism
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« Reply #134352 on: June 05, 2018, 01:16:09 pm »

I wonder how astrology would work if you live on a different planet, too. BTW scary thing, I was googling Astrology polls and it seems there's been a big uptick in belief with 58% of young adult Americans (18-24) believing that Astrology is scientifically proven.

Quote from: NSF Study
In 2012, slightly more than half of Americans said that astrology was “not at all scientific,” whereas nearly two-thirds gave this response in 2010. The comparable percentage has not been this low since 1983.

So, there's been a rapid shift toward believing astrology is scientific, and it's almost entirely because of the new generation of young adults being added to the polling numbers. WTF is happening with young Americans science education? Just at the time we need them getting on board with scientific consensus, they're reverting back to ancient superstitions.
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« Reply #134353 on: June 05, 2018, 01:24:37 pm »

I have a number of friends that are into crystals and astrology and good energy and the like. They are generally in their mid-20's.
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« Reply #134354 on: June 05, 2018, 01:36:36 pm »

Having given it a moment's thought, the very recent uptick is most likely due to the fracturing of mass media into self-selecting consumption. teens now use Youtube much more than other social media such as Facebook. Young people have grown up in an "echo chamber" where algorithms point you at content that reaffirms whatever other content you just watched. Note how if you look up one specific thing, youtube over-reacts and assumes you want to watch all this other stuff that repeats the exact same messages.

So people get funneled into more and more specifcally self-affirming content, whether that's extreme SJW, extreme-right, game-geek, science-stuff, or crystal-healing-moonbeam stuff. If you click on something then blindly click on whatever it suggests next you tend to be dragged into more and more specific areas of content. e.g. kids into astrology aren't being directed to Neil Degrasse Tyson videos about science fact. The algorithm is going "oh you watched that astrology video, here have this one about crystal healing and this other one about ghosts", based on the fact that people who liked the video you just watched probably didn't like a video of Neil Degrasse Tyson debunking astrology.
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