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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #136005 on: August 01, 2018, 09:02:40 am »

Please ensure the hammerer has a foam hammer. Don't waste a valuable human if that's the case.
Does make me wonder what the best material for a hammerer's hammer would be, if using dwarf fortress materials (and not wood).
I somehow don't think it would be silver. Maybe copper or aluminium?

adamantine, if by 'best material' you mean the least lethal.
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« Reply #136006 on: August 01, 2018, 09:55:25 am »

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« Reply #136007 on: August 01, 2018, 12:37:37 pm »

Four steaks fall onto the ground. Well shit. It happens. Take stock of their weight, and trash it.

Four steaks fall onto the ground. Older coworker, thinks that it is FUCKING OK TO JUST DUST THAT SHIT OFF AND TRY TO SELL IT. FUCK. NO. THAT is NOT OK.

The bastard even had the nerve to try to tell me that's not what he was planning to do. HE PUT A FREAKING LABEL ON IT! GRAH! If my meat doesn't do anything about this, I might have to. God am I PISSED.
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« Reply #136008 on: August 01, 2018, 01:09:01 pm »

The question is, what is best? From the players perspective? Then Adamantium, it's literally the lightest metal, period, and would do the least damage. It's 0.200 g/cm3.

From the perspective of a justice system? Well, is hammering supposed to be lethal or just a "punishment" like whipping? If the former, then platinum (21.40 g/cm3), the most weighty material in DF, although gold and rose gold are within 5-10% of platinum density. 19.32 g/cm3 for both of them. Special mention goes to silver at 10.49 g/cm3, and is the most weighty 'weapons-grade' metal that you could normally use. A platinum hammer is only available through a[n un?]lucky artefact, but if we're not talking in-game techniques but only material properties, then you'd be able to make a platinum hammer, no problem.

If it's simply for punishment, then you'd want something between aluminum and steel; there's a large gap in DF densities, with aluminum at 2.7 g/cm3 and the next dense is tin and the pewters at 7.28 g/cm3, with steel at 7.85 g/cm3.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #136009 on: August 01, 2018, 01:16:07 pm »

Four steaks fall onto the ground. Well shit. It happens. Take stock of their weight, and trash it.

Four steaks fall onto the ground. Older coworker, thinks that it is FUCKING OK TO JUST DUST THAT SHIT OFF AND TRY TO SELL IT. FUCK. NO. THAT is NOT OK.

The bastard even had the nerve to try to tell me that's not what he was planning to do. HE PUT A FREAKING LABEL ON IT! GRAH! If my meat doesn't do anything about this, I might have to. God am I PISSED.
I've heard fun stories from people working in restaurants.

Four steaks fall onto the ground. Don't you DARE throw out those perfectly good steaks, you're WASTING PRODUCT and COSTING US MONEY.

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« Reply #136010 on: August 01, 2018, 02:38:48 pm »

Eurgh. And literally EVERY fucking person I have talked to about it thinks it's ok. Which, it ultimately might, since they are raw and will be subjected to great amounts of heat anyways, but there is still no fucking way I would want to sell something like that in good conscience.

... I really need to find a better job.
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« Reply #136011 on: August 01, 2018, 02:53:11 pm »

Nah, it's not okay.

And literally everyone of those who say it is would refuse to eat that steak if it was theirs.
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« Reply #136012 on: August 01, 2018, 03:53:26 pm »

Nah, it's not okay.

And literally everyone of those who say it is would refuse to eat that steak if it was theirs.

While I wish that were the case, I don't think that it is. One of the claims made during our conversation was 'my wife is a microbiologist' and the guy had been in the business for years. On most other things I respect him, so I am inclined to believe him that, yeah, 450 degrees will kill a lot of things. Hell, during the aging process of meats, we deliberately allow some materials to develop on the outer shell of a meat so that inside becomes more tender. In most respects, they're probably right in saying that shit won't hurt anyone, provided the meat is cooked as long as it needs to be.

That said. it's still morally reprehensible to try to sell a product that had been potentially contaminated without that customers pre-consent; which given that it was a pre-packed item, wasn't exactly an option. And even then, if it ended tasting even the most tiniest bit funny, I would feel awful. If only for that reason, I'm still 100% happy with what I did.

GRAH.
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« Reply #136013 on: August 01, 2018, 04:21:03 pm »

It is also worth noting that people expect beef to be able to be cooked to much lower temperatures than most other meats, so steak especially is more risky than a lot of others if sold dirty. Some people even eat it raw!

So, no. Not OK.
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« Reply #136014 on: August 01, 2018, 04:35:51 pm »

Nah, it's not okay.

And literally everyone of those who say it is would refuse to eat that steak if it was theirs.

While I wish that were the case, I don't think that it is. One of the claims made during our conversation was 'my wife is a microbiologist' and the guy had been in the business for years. On most other things I respect him, so I am inclined to believe him that, yeah, 450 degrees will kill a lot of things. Hell, during the aging process of meats, we deliberately allow some materials to develop on the outer shell of a meat so that inside becomes more tender. In most respects, they're probably right in saying that shit won't hurt anyone, provided the meat is cooked as long as it needs to be.

That said. it's still morally reprehensible to try to sell a product that had been potentially contaminated without that customers pre-consent; which given that it was a pre-packed item, wasn't exactly an option. And even then, if it ended tasting even the most tiniest bit funny, I would feel awful. If only for that reason, I'm still 100% happy with what I did.

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« Reply #136015 on: August 01, 2018, 04:41:14 pm »

Nah, it's not okay.

And literally everyone of those who say it is would refuse to eat that steak if it was theirs.

While I wish that were the case, I don't think that it is. One of the claims made during our conversation was 'my wife is a microbiologist' and the guy had been in the business for years. On most other things I respect him, so I am inclined to believe him that, yeah, 450 degrees will kill a lot of things. Hell, during the aging process of meats, we deliberately allow some materials to develop on the outer shell of a meat so that inside becomes more tender. In most respects, they're probably right in saying that shit won't hurt anyone, provided the meat is cooked as long as it needs to be.

That said. it's still morally reprehensible to try to sell a product that had been potentially contaminated without that customers pre-consent; which given that it was a pre-packed item, wasn't exactly an option. And even then, if it ended tasting even the most tiniest bit funny, I would feel awful. If only for that reason, I'm still 100% happy with what I did.

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« Reply #136016 on: August 01, 2018, 04:49:50 pm »

Nah, it's not okay.

And literally everyone of those who say it is would refuse to eat that steak if it was theirs.
You'd be surprised/horrified. I've had to intercept family that was going to cook/eat stuff that had been on the floor and had bugs crawling on it. Also have to regularly check to make sure food is put up after cooking/eating. They don't hesitate to leave stuff (that can make you sick/actually kill you if not promptly refrigerated or whatev') out for literal days, exposed to air, and still eat it.

How these people live for decades and not make the subsequent toilet inhabitation connection, I still don't understand. Senility only goes so far and doesn't excuse the ones younger than me.
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« Reply #136017 on: August 01, 2018, 04:53:48 pm »

Unfortunately(fortunately?), I'm working in a straight-up meat department as opposed to kitchen. And Meph, that point is 100% valid, although I would deeply question why someone would want to eat meat raw (though I do know there are some recipes for it, and our fresh house-ground beef tends to be decent for that). 

That said? I think I'm going to make an inquiry to the FDA and see what they think. For all I know, there could be archaic shenanigans that somehow makes steak dropping ok (unlikely, but oh my god if it is), or sweet vindication(which would beg the question of how I even broach this sort of subject, but I'm thinking that since I've contacted the people in charge on my own levels, I would likely be best off going above their heads and to somebody who actually gives a shit.

As for eating that flies onto my floors, it's mostly fair game so long as it's raw or dried. Cracker? Piece of popcorn? Give me that shit. Crusty apple covered in what one can only hope is coffee grains? Dear god no.
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« Reply #136018 on: August 01, 2018, 04:55:50 pm »

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« Reply #136019 on: August 01, 2018, 06:27:00 pm »

Unfortunately(fortunately?), I'm working in a straight-up meat department as opposed to kitchen. And Meph, that point is 100% valid, although I would deeply question why someone would want to eat meat raw (though I do know there are some recipes for it, and our fresh house-ground beef tends to be decent for that). 

That said? I think I'm going to make an inquiry to the FDA and see what they think. For all I know, there could be archaic shenanigans that somehow makes steak dropping ok (unlikely, but oh my god if it is), or sweet vindication(which would beg the question of how I even broach this sort of subject, but I'm thinking that since I've contacted the people in charge on my own levels, I would likely be best off going above their heads and to somebody who actually gives a shit.

As for eating that flies onto my floors, it's mostly fair game so long as it's raw or dried. Cracker? Piece of popcorn? Give me that shit. Crusty apple covered in what one can only hope is coffee grains? Dear god no.



I suspect the FDA will tell you that it's very not okay.
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