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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 13001429 times)

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #148755 on: November 20, 2019, 01:22:06 am »

Apparently the tv show adaptation of the city watch books is gonna have Vetinari be a lady. It's like, you can't just go and adapt good material into a show, no no, you gotta make changes for whatever reason and what better way to virtue signal and at the same time shield yourself from any criticism than to gender flip a beloved character, even if it makes zero goddamn sense because it goes against a lot of the character does and how others react to that because of it.

Tho to be fair, everyone knows that old white men holding positions of great power can't really be forces for societal progression and the advancement of equality and cultural diversity. That'd just be too absurd.
But he gets married. To Lady Ramkin.
Also there is this thing about the Watch slowly being filled with people who are not human men. If the captain starts out not being a human man, it loses some of it's effect.
Then there is Night Watch, where Vimes takes the place of his mentor. And we already have a whole book about women pretending to be men.

Vetinari's the Patrician, you're thinking of Vimes.

Don't rightly see the problem with Vetinari being a lady, but I've not read the books for a long while and can't remember if there's anything in particular he does in the books that wouldn't be as equally brilliant if done by a woman.
Yeah, I messed that up. Vetinari is not that much a problem. No known romance, not any male sterotype.
They will have to explain how a woman got to be a patrician though. (Or a matriarch in that case.)
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« Reply #148756 on: November 20, 2019, 08:49:54 am »

EDIT: Why is there going to be a Jumanji sequel sequel with the same characters? Why would anyone play Jumanji again?

Robin Williams is really going to look bad in this one, what with being dead and all. I suppose they have to go back into the game to save someone else, and otherwise it's the same plot? Or they're the parents know, and their children go through exactly the same plot?
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« Reply #148757 on: November 20, 2019, 08:53:17 am »

This new one is actually jumanji 4, and apparently one of the players likes it better in the game.
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« Reply #148758 on: November 20, 2019, 09:04:18 am »

Bethany I think. My guess is she orchestrated a return.
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« Reply #148759 on: November 20, 2019, 11:19:50 am »

Yeah, I messed that up. Vetinari is not that much a problem. No known romance, not any male sterotype.
They will have to explain how a woman got to be a patrician though. (Or a matriarch in that case.)

There is something of an issue that if Vetinari is female it makes the choice to have Angua in the Watch less significant. Ankh-Morpork is supposed to be sexist, classist, racist and so forth until Vetinari starts going against the rest of the aristocracy and changing things, but that only really works if Vetinari is someone who isn't already someone they'd object to on basic principles because that helps set the tone for how things have been done before. To exaggerate a bit, it's kind of like having Vetinari be a troll, it makes Detritus joining the Watch less important by extension.

Angua was both the first woman in the Watch and the first proper 'monster' in the Watch, which was the basis of the 'But she's a w-' gags throughout her initial introduction and the basis of several of the cast learning not to be sexist or anti-monster. If Vetinari is already female then a woman being in a position of authority is nothing new, so Angua is less special on that front, and then in turn Cheery is less special for being the first dwarf to defy cultural norms because the cultural norms presented in general are less repressive.
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« Reply #148760 on: November 20, 2019, 11:28:18 am »

Last weekend, some guy at my local bar just turned around during a conversation and fucking clocked the woman standing behind him, breaking her nose and getting blood everywhere.

Today, a man and a woman were standing outside the same bar having an argument, when the dude pulled a knife and stabbed her.


Stabbing victim is in stable condition, most likely thanks to the bartender on duty being a big Irish tank with a history in MMA.

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« Reply #148761 on: November 20, 2019, 11:29:12 am »

Time to change bars.
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« Reply #148762 on: November 20, 2019, 11:47:28 am »

Yeah, I messed that up. Vetinari is not that much a problem. No known romance, not any male sterotype.
They will have to explain how a woman got to be a patrician though. (Or a matriarch in that case.)

There is something of an issue that if Vetinari is female it makes the choice to have Angua in the Watch less significant. Ankh-Morpork is supposed to be sexist, classist, racist and so forth until Vetinari starts going against the rest of the aristocracy and changing things, but that only really works if Vetinari is someone who isn't already someone they'd object to on basic principles because that helps set the tone for how things have been done before. To exaggerate a bit, it's kind of like having Vetinari be a troll, it makes Detritus joining the Watch less important by extension.

Angua was both the first woman in the Watch and the first proper 'monster' in the Watch, which was the basis of the 'But she's a w-' gags throughout her initial introduction and the basis of several of the cast learning not to be sexist or anti-monster. If Vetinari is already female then a woman being in a position of authority is nothing new, so Angua is less special on that front, and then in turn Cheery is less special for being the first dwarf to defy cultural norms because the cultural norms presented in general are less repressive.
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I was going to write something similar, but you beat me to it.
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« Reply #148763 on: November 20, 2019, 12:28:46 pm »

Time to change bars.
One would think that! But no.

I mean, I live right next door, and between the people who work there and the regulars it's pretty much the center of my friend network here in town...


The fact that it's apparently just a little too stabulous for its own good, well... Nobody's perfect, eh?

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« Reply #148764 on: November 20, 2019, 12:34:07 pm »

EDIT: Why is there going to be a Jumanji sequel sequel with the same characters? Why would anyone play Jumanji again?

Robin Williams is really going to look bad in this one, what with being dead and all.
A similar argument could be made for the new James Dean movie.
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« Reply #148765 on: November 20, 2019, 12:40:55 pm »

Stabbing victim is in stable condition, most likely thanks to the bartender on duty being a big Irish tank with a history in MMA.
Conor Mcgregor?!?  :o

I thought he was busy beating up old people in bars vs actual bartending  :P
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« Reply #148766 on: November 20, 2019, 12:56:29 pm »

Nah, McGregor's a lightweight striker, lean bastard. Our man's built like a barrel of bricks. Has three daughters.

Talks shit well enough, but living in Norway's made him lose some of his touch; so we all chip in to try and keep his game up.

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« Reply #148767 on: November 20, 2019, 12:58:56 pm »

Has three daughters.

Is this some sort of slang or stereotype I'm not familiar with?
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« Reply #148768 on: November 20, 2019, 01:04:48 pm »

Has three daughters.

Is this some sort of slang or stereotype I'm not familiar with?

Well I mean he is raised Catholic... But I was more alluding to the fact that surviving the act of raising three daughters is testament to the man's absolute resilience and mettle.

Especially considering that they all take after him, from what I hear.

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« Reply #148769 on: November 20, 2019, 08:00:10 pm »

Time to change bars.
Why pass up all that free entertainment?


Oh no, new page. I don't have any particularly pressing WTFs that I can think of.
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