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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #152670 on: August 06, 2020, 04:43:16 pm »

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« Reply #152671 on: August 06, 2020, 05:04:34 pm »

Weíre still on about Sundrop in a bottle? Ok

Bottles tend to be made of PRT plastic, which is a hydrocarbon
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« Reply #152672 on: August 06, 2020, 05:09:34 pm »

Prt is the sound of prutt, which is Swedish for fart. It is also the sound of farts.

Also aren't plastic bottles supposed to be made out of pet plastic so you can recycle them?
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« Reply #152673 on: August 06, 2020, 05:45:55 pm »

Prt is the sound of prutt, which is Swedish for fart. It is also the sound of farts.

Also aren't plastic bottles supposed to be made out of pet plastic so you can recycle them?
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« Reply #152674 on: August 06, 2020, 06:17:48 pm »

Plastic made from pets? That's adorable!

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« Reply #152675 on: August 06, 2020, 06:29:13 pm »

Plastic made from pets? That's adorable!

Why not people, too?
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« Reply #152676 on: August 06, 2020, 08:13:47 pm »

Soylent PET is people!
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« Reply #152677 on: August 06, 2020, 08:45:35 pm »

No, we need to get rid of plastic, not get more of it. I remember reading that hydrocarbons get broken down in UV light and turned into non polymer parts of what used to be the polymer (forgot the official name for what this is called) which is still bad for the sea life. I think what we need to do is take plastic and break hydrogen bonds, forcing the carbons to bond with each other instead of the hydrogen. Of course the side effect of this will result in an increase of hydrogen gas in whatever area youíre doing this in, and the potential for making carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide. Hmm...maybe if we bond the hydrogen with oxygen while bonding the carbon, the end result being carbon, water, and hydrogen peroxide. This will likely result in lots of heat energy.
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« Reply #152678 on: August 06, 2020, 09:02:03 pm »

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« Reply #152679 on: August 06, 2020, 09:06:13 pm »

Obviously we just need to genetically engineer rats that are able to eat and digest plastic, and then release them into the great landfills where all the errant plastic is piling up. Then we'll just have a mutant rat problem instead of a plastic garbage problem.

Then we create a cat to eat the mutant rats, how about thast, and then a dog to eat the mutant cats, because of those Democrats, and then a horse to eat the mutant dogs, a problematical slog. For some reason it was a horse I donít know why, of course.
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« Reply #152680 on: August 06, 2020, 09:12:27 pm »

Oh that's the best part then the horses all die out in the winter.
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« Reply #152681 on: August 06, 2020, 09:42:01 pm »

Refrigerator
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« Reply #152682 on: August 06, 2020, 09:45:42 pm »

No, we need to get rid of plastic, not get more of it. I remember reading that hydrocarbons get broken down in UV light and turned into non polymer parts of what used to be the polymer (forgot the official name for what this is called) which is still bad for the sea life. I think what we need to do is take plastic and break hydrogen bonds, forcing the carbons to bond with each other instead of the hydrogen. Of course the side effect of this will result in an increase of hydrogen gas in whatever area youíre doing this in, and the potential for making carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide. Hmm...maybe if we bond the hydrogen with oxygen while bonding the carbon, the end result being carbon, water, and hydrogen peroxide. This will likely result in lots of heat energy.

We need responsible use of plastics. Have you check out how much more carbon footprint there is for a cotton bag vs disposable plastic bag?

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/12/17337602/plastic-tote-bags-climate-change-litter-life-cycle-assessments-environment

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I felt really good about myself, until I saw a report published earlier this year by Denmarkís Ministry of Environment and Food that said that plastic bags are better for the environment than organic cotton tote bags. In fact, of all the shopping bags the study looked at ó from paper to recycled plastic ó cotton tote bags fared the worst: they need to be reused thousands of times to have the same environmental footprint as a lightweight plastic bag

Cheap plastic bags can be a nuisance and people were not disposing of them properly, however, cheap things are cheap precisely because not a lot of resources are needed to make them. If you get disposable bags once a week and instead buy an equal amount of cotton bags to replace them, you need to go shopping with the same cotton bags weekly for 20+ years to have a net saving for the environment vs just getting low-cost plastic bags each time.

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I decided to give up plastic bags because I wanted to do something about the scourge of plastic pollution in our oceans.

This bit's also been drawn into question.

https://phys.org/news/2019-09-ocean-plastic-ships.html

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Most of the plastic bottles washing up on the rocky shores of Inaccessible Island, aptly named for its sheer cliffs rising from the middle of the South Atlantic, probably come from Chinese merchant ships, a study published Monday said.

The study offers fresh evidence that the vast garbage patches floating in the middle of oceans, which have sparked much consumer hand-wringing in recent years, are less the product of people dumping single-use plastics in waterways or on land, than they are the result of merchant marine vessels tossing their waste overboard by the ton.

The authors of the study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, or PNAS, collected thousands of pieces of waste during visits to the tiny island in 1984, 2009 and again in 2018.

The island is located roughly midway between Argentina and South Africa in the South Atlantic gyre, a vast whirlpool of currents that has created what has come to be known as an oceanic garbage patch.

While initial inspections of the trash washing up on the island showed labels indicating it had come from South America, some 2,000 miles (3,000 kilometers) to the west, by 2018 three-quarters of the garbage appeared to originate from Asia, mostly China.

So, the problem here is that they analyzed some of the Altantic garbage patch, but almost none of it is labeled according to what actually sells on land nearby. Back in 1984 most of the bottles were from South America, and by 2018 most of them shifted to being labeled in Chinese. What this is mainly about is that in the mid 80s many of the ships in the south Altantic would have been crewed by South Americans (Brazil ship building boom from 1960s - 1980s), but that shifted to Chinese ships in the modern era. They almost certainly dump their waste at sea to avoid paying port costs for garbage removal.
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« Reply #152683 on: August 06, 2020, 10:31:04 pm »

Eh... talking about the patches when you're talking oceanic plastic pollution isn't even a majority of the problem, though, from what I understand of the current state of things. Someone concerned with oceanic plastic pollution would have worries well beyond the patch accumulations, and bottle compositions would just... not be much of a concern, especially if they're not personally dumping bottles in the drink.

The patches aren't even remotely a good thing, of course, but what seems to be getting folks concerned these days is more microplastic pollution... some of which floats down off the garbage patch stuff, but a lot (maybe most, don't recall right now) seems to be getting sourced from non-oceanic origin -- coming in through runoff or floating in on the wind.

It's apparently pretty damn insidious junk, too. Folks have started looking and they're finding the shit basically goddamn everywhere, from ocean trenches to arctic glaciers, sometimes in concentrations it's killing or sickening stuff.
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« Reply #152684 on: August 06, 2020, 10:39:42 pm »

Obviously we just need to genetically engineer rats that are able to eat and digest plastic, and then release them into the great landfills where all the errant plastic is piling up. Then we'll just have a mutant rat problem instead of a plastic garbage problem.

Then we create a cat to eat the mutant rats, how about thast, and then a dog to eat the mutant cats, because of those Democrats, and then a horse to eat the mutant dogs, a problematical slog. For some reason it was a horse I donít know why, of course.
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