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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #155055 on: January 07, 2021, 08:11:14 am »

Screw me for not knowing how Japanese works, then.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #155056 on: January 07, 2021, 08:20:56 am »

Screw your bike, you mean :P
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #155057 on: January 07, 2021, 08:23:38 am »

Japanese is an oddball of a language (from an indo-european languages standpoint, don't know any others) in that second person is generally gender-neutral (no he/she), but first person is not, the existence of a plethora of gender-specific "I"s being the most striking example[1]. You could probably go for "watashi" though, as I understand it it is more or less gender-neutral[2]. Of course, anime and manga like to spice it up, with lots of characters having "odd" speech patterns, and combining that with characters scarcely gendering each other you get lots of characters of unclear/unspecified gender, which is pretty neat.

How widespread the notion of the nonbinary is I'm less sure about. Sure, characters of unclear gender are not rare, and gender roles have been played around with in popular media at least since Osamu Tezuka's Princess Knight, but Japan is also a very conservative country. My guess is that while the notion of gender neutrality and a tradition of playing with gender roles both exist, and so does of course a domestic LGBT+ community producing media with a higher concentration of such themes, the average person is still at best uninformed and at worst highly prejudiced.

Of course, one of the wonderful points about producing/imagining your own media is that you can put anything you want in it, disregarding previous tropes and standards.

[1] "Watashi", "uchi", "atashi", "boku", "ore", and "jibun" being the most common, probably. Using your first-name as a pronoun also occurs, mostly by kids. Then there's very formal pronouns like "watakushi" and "ware" and lots of lots of pronouns you'd only hear in anime, either because they are archaic ("sessha" used by samurai) or otherwise ridiculous ("ore-sama", adding a "revering" honorific to an already boisterous pronoun. Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z, uses this sometimes).
[2] Apropos, I've gathered there's an entire genre of so called "watashi novels" written entirely in first person with the narrator/MC's name not necessarily ever being disclosed. Pretty sure that e.g. the anime Tatami Galaxy and Humanity Has Declined were both based on such novels.  Note that the formal has a male MC, the latter a female, both referred to using "watashi".

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« Reply #155058 on: January 07, 2021, 10:31:27 am »

Apparently the Pogchamp emote was removed from Twitch, as the guy that the emote depicts made some remarks encouraging more violence during the Capitol Hill Riot. That just seems like such a random consequence of this shit, this isn't poggers at all.
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« Reply #155059 on: January 07, 2021, 10:33:24 am »

I think its silly to remove an emote that apparently is popular enough that its absence is newsworthy.  Lets cancel all the poggers now.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #155060 on: January 07, 2021, 10:34:27 am »

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« Reply #155061 on: January 07, 2021, 10:36:22 am »

I heard that he hates the existence of the emote, so some Discord servers are keeping it.
I don't get the reference though, and at this point I'm intentionally not checking.  Hehe.
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« Reply #155062 on: January 07, 2021, 11:37:59 am »

It's all rather silly really, KomodoHype is the better emote anyway!

But really I think it's actually the sensible thing for Twitch to do, since having him as an emote is a formal affiliation and I'm all for corporations continuing to maintain at least some semblance of not endorsing violent maniacs.
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« Reply #155063 on: January 07, 2021, 12:04:32 pm »

Because of course the emote caused him to make those remarks.
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« Reply #155064 on: January 07, 2021, 12:16:13 pm »

? It's nothing to do with the emote itself, it's just that it's not in Twitch's interest to be directly linked to a figure encouraging terrorism.
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« Reply #155065 on: January 07, 2021, 12:44:54 pm »

I still don't think it's right as just because a nasty person made the emote doesn't mean the emote itself is somehow evil.
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« Reply #155066 on: January 07, 2021, 12:46:43 pm »

a figure encouraging terrorism.
So what did Poggers say exactly?
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« Reply #155067 on: January 07, 2021, 12:48:06 pm »

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« Reply #155068 on: January 07, 2021, 01:05:12 pm »

wow what a pogchamp am i right heh heh baka ;)

(im being sarcastic what he said was absolute dogshit)
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« Reply #155069 on: January 07, 2021, 01:10:13 pm »

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