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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 12996203 times)

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #161340 on: December 08, 2022, 11:32:33 am »

At the gym the other day the Fox News had a big splash headline declaring "BIDEN BLOWS OFF BORDER" and I'm like "dang that's a lotta dudes"

Actual lol
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« Reply #161341 on: December 08, 2022, 11:57:56 am »

Should have posted his kitfox logo porn on e621 with all the other brand logo porn. Gotta know your audience.
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« Reply #161342 on: December 08, 2022, 12:11:03 pm »

Should have posted his kitfox logo porn on e621 with all the other brand logo porn. Gotta know your audience.

Okay-

What the fuck happened when I wasn't there?

Like, what in the actual shit? WHAT?!
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #161343 on: December 08, 2022, 01:22:38 pm »

Best not to drag up shit someone was banned for brah.

My wtf: I subscribe to a Patreon which has a private podcast feed, and the person doing it is friends and occasionally makes a podcast with a puppeteer who controls Hacker T Dog on CBBC.

In my YouTube feed, I got a recommendation for a video of CBBC bloopers involving Hacker T Dog which (while very funny) has exactly nothing to do with the rest of my YT watching habits, which are mostly video game related and a lot of one TV show that is most assuredly not for kids.

I’m not sure how that happened, as I listen to podcasts in my phone, and I watch YT on my PS4, and even then, the links between the content are tenuous at best.
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« Reply #161344 on: December 08, 2022, 02:25:18 pm »

I'm 90% certain that these companies do it by looking at IP addresses.  I don't have any Facebook- (Meta-) owned apps on my phone, but my wife does. I will get ads on websites I browse on my phone or computer for things that she's looked at.  It's got to be using some kind of assumption based on the fact that we have a "single" IP address for our house.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #161345 on: December 09, 2022, 12:26:05 am »

The concept of "Courtly Love" is medieval feminism!
For the curious, I was watching a episode of Star Trek Voyager and was curious about the book at the end.
That book dealt with the issue of Courtly Love.
As I looked into it, I was unsurprised to learn that it was introduced by a noble lady running her household. The picture and initial description gave it away: it's a way for a noble lady to tell the knights what to do. Not necessarily a modern way of managing the menfolk when the Lord is away or indisposed, but it is literature that clearly shows the woman in charge.
At least according to a brief preview of this wikipedia article

Well, I thought it was interesting to note that feminism in some form existed almost a Millennium ago.
Oh, and our leading lady: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #161346 on: December 09, 2022, 06:33:49 am »

People gonna power grab. 

Especially if they werent given that power to begin with.

It's human nature to seek to control their environments if they can.
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« Reply #161347 on: December 09, 2022, 06:51:07 am »

The anti-Kitfox post with the pick handle shoved up their company logo played a part.
Must've been deleted, I don't see it in his post history. Sounds atrocious tho lol.
I don't know, sounds pretty funny to me.

I remember him being well behaved and supportive in the art thread, but elsewhere... Eh, there's a kind of guy you see on the internet sometimes who doesn't seem to know how to not be toxic. Just defaults to it or something.
I mainly saw him in an old world building game, the Deer wizard story, and a few other places and he always seemed like a decent person in those places.

Should have posted his kitfox logo porn on e621 with all the other brand logo porn. Gotta know your audience.
I don't know what an e621 is about it sounds scary.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #161348 on: December 09, 2022, 08:16:42 am »

I don't know what an e621 is about it sounds scary.
A quick check suggests it's some kind of image board focused on furry porn. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle!
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« Reply #161349 on: December 09, 2022, 09:00:34 am »

The concept of "Courtly Love" is medieval feminism!


I just had an odd thought - are there any "masculinist" movements recorded in matriarchal societies? (Interestingly there was a Next Generation episode about that topic!)
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« Reply #161350 on: December 09, 2022, 10:56:40 am »

It should be noted that sexism (and consequently feminism) as it taken form in our modern Western cultures only really go back to the industrial revolution and its effects on the upper burghers class, so we shouldn't be surprised medieval gender roles/sexism were different. Sure, modern sexism has roots further back and other parts of it are constants, but many if the parts feminism rose against were directly caused by societal changes during the late renaissance/early modern age.

For example, the idea that women should stay at home is a clear modern concept -- to begin with, in medieval times, everybody stayed at home. Home was your workshop, whether you were a farmer or an artisan burgher, that's literally where you worked. The only people who didn't would be the percentage of paupers and laborers who went to labour every day, but in these families it was still common that the women also worked because they were very poor – you'd commonly find fields laboured solely by women which preneccessates a large group of female paupers to work them.

And for farmer families, well, these people were self-sufficiency farmers. Sure, tasks might have been heavily gendered, but you can't say women stayed at home not working because their duties involved spinning cloth when said cloth was literally how they paid their rent to their landlord just as much as the grains from the field (serf contracts most commonly stipulated rent be paid as X amount of cloth and grain per year).

(Side-note: the cloth production was actually what constituted something like 70% of a year's work on a farm. Mostly not "women's work", though, at least in Sweden the majority of it was considered "men's work" and only the spinning, the final part, was done by women)

And among the burghers, at least in the artisan families, we have women "assisting" their husbands in the workshop, and by "assisting" I mean literally being trained artisans in their own right working with their husbands, at least if the number of artisan widows we know of that continued their husband's businesses after their passing is to be taken into account. Sure, artisan wives are not as fullsure undeniable to have been working as farmwives, but again, they spent their whole life in that workshop. They grew up in it and watched their parents labour in it every day – again, this wasn't the case as it is in our society where the grownups leave every day for a workplace on the other side of town, these people literally had their workshops in their houses so it wasn't the case luke for us when a veterinarians child can grow up without even seeing their parent stuff their arms up the butt of a single cow, these children watched their parents work from the day they opened their eyes and it would be impossible for them to not learn the craft.

I am slowly approaching my point here, so please bear with me, because then lastly we have the merchant burghers, which is the first group of people for whom women not working was an option. And in the late renaissance/early modern time, the influence of this subclass explodes (as the artisan subclass dies due to industrialisation) we end up with it on the very top of society class hill in the 18th and 19th century. And that means they were the ones setting the standard for what is seen as "decent living" during those times, which included their wives not having to work (ironically, at least in England unless I'm remembering the location wrong, it was still considered prestigious to educate your daughters, they just wasn't supposed to actually do anything with their educations as adults). We still haven't reached a time where staying at home was even an attainable option for the vast majority of people, though: in the rurals the farmers kept sharing their work as they always had, and in the cities the impoverished masses needed everybody who could working as much as they could, both men, women, and children even. But idea of the burgher wives staying at home not working is constructed during these times, and this is where we get this idea from, and it keeps dominating society into the 20th century, where the short period of time for which it is attainable for the new, broader middle class during the middle of it results in the cementing of the idea of it "always having been that way", which is a blatantly untrue notion.
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« Reply #161351 on: December 09, 2022, 11:35:56 am »

The concept of "Courtly Love" is medieval feminism!
'Courtly Love' is something I never wanted to hear beyond high school.
Had to do my first big research paper on this in freshman year...
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« Reply #161352 on: December 09, 2022, 01:07:58 pm »

It should be noted that sexism (and consequently feminism) as it taken form in our modern Western cultures only really go back to the industrial revolution and its effects on the upper burghers class, so we shouldn't be surprised medieval gender roles/sexism were different. Sure, modern sexism has roots further back and other parts of it are constants, but many if the parts feminism rose against were directly caused by societal changes during the late renaissance/early modern age.

For example, the idea that women should stay at home is a clear modern concept -- to begin with, in medieval times, everybody stayed at home. Home was your workshop, whether you were a farmer or an artisan burgher, that's literally where you worked. The only people who didn't would be the percentage of paupers and laborers who went to labour every day, but in these families it was still common that the women also worked because they were very poor – you'd commonly find fields laboured solely by women which preneccessates a large group of female paupers to work them.

And for farmer families, well, these people were self-sufficiency farmers. Sure, tasks might have been heavily gendered, but you can't say women stayed at home not working because their duties involved spinning cloth when said cloth was literally how they paid their rent to their landlord just as much as the grains from the field (serf contracts most commonly stipulated rent be paid as X amount of cloth and grain per year).

(Side-note: the cloth production was actually what constituted something like 70% of a year's work on a farm. Mostly not "women's work", though, at least in Sweden the majority of it was considered "men's work" and only the spinning, the final part, was done by women)

And among the burghers, at least in the artisan families, we have women "assisting" their husbands in the workshop, and by "assisting" I mean literally being trained artisans in their own right working with their husbands, at least if the number of artisan widows we know of that continued their husband's businesses after their passing is to be taken into account. Sure, artisan wives are not as fullsure undeniable to have been working as farmwives, but again, they spent their whole life in that workshop. They grew up in it and watched their parents labour in it every day – again, this wasn't the case as it is in our society where the grownups leave every day for a workplace on the other side of town, these people literally had their workshops in their houses so it wasn't the case luke for us when a veterinarians child can grow up without even seeing their parent stuff their arms up the butt of a single cow, these children watched their parents work from the day they opened their eyes and it would be impossible for them to not learn the craft.

I am slowly approaching my point here, so please bear with me, because then lastly we have the merchant burghers, which is the first group of people for whom women not working was an option. And in the late renaissance/early modern time, the influence of this subclass explodes (as the artisan subclass dies due to industrialisation) we end up with it on the very top of society class hill in the 18th and 19th century. And that means they were the ones setting the standard for what is seen as "decent living" during those times, which included their wives not having to work (ironically, at least in England unless I'm remembering the location wrong, it was still considered prestigious to educate your daughters, they just wasn't supposed to actually do anything with their educations as adults). We still haven't reached a time where staying at home was even an attainable option for the vast majority of people, though: in the rurals the farmers kept sharing their work as they always had, and in the cities the impoverished masses needed everybody who could working as much as they could, both men, women, and children even. But idea of the burgher wives staying at home not working is constructed during these times, and this is where we get this idea from, and it keeps dominating society into the 20th century, where the short period of time for which it is attainable for the new, broader middle class during the middle of it results in the cementing of the idea of it "always having been that way", which is a blatantly untrue notion.

You're missing a very important factor here. It wasn't until very recently that having servants was not a fairly standard thing. In 1960 there were around 10 million live-in maids in the US. At a time when the US population was 180 million. A lot of the more modern idea of a "housewife" comes from middle-class people who couldn't afford a servant trying to ape that kind of life, with the mother of the house filling in as the servant.
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« Reply #161353 on: December 09, 2022, 05:42:14 pm »

The real social change was mostly safe childbirth.
Couple that with the Industrial Age's change from Agriculture, where more children meant more workers and thus more money, to Industrial/Office, where more children meant more education/etc. that the parent(s) had to pay for.

Women were absolutely oppressed prior to the industrial revolution, but due to those two above principles, most women weren't in any position to push back against it.

Think of it this way: If you have Cancer, and you trust your housemate, do you object to them managing the bills, working 40+ hours a week, and otherwise "leading the household"?
Maybe occasionally, but you're mostly too tired and too uncertain of your existence to wrestle for control of the household.

In contrast: Queen Eleanor outlived two husbands and two sons, all kings.

Fun facts: Her first husband, King Louis VII demanded an annulment because she did not bear him a son, just two daughters. It was eventually granted.
She would go on to have Five sons and three daughters with her second husband, King Henry II. She was 44 years old when her youngest child was born.

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« Reply #161354 on: December 10, 2022, 05:54:53 am »

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In 2021, the average annual electricity consumption for a U.S. residential utility customer was 10,632 kilowatthours (kWh)

I did our yearly reading of the elecricity counter I thought it was kinda low given I try real hard to spend all my time with electronics. The quote is like the first thing that greets me I'm like nah what is that discrepancy if anything my countrymen are wasteful... Well I'm bang on the national average: 3600.

UK 2900
Netherlands 2900
Germany 3000
France 4700


USA? More than 9000 bitch! lol
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