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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85290 on: September 16, 2015, 02:19:31 pm »

He's lucky the cl9ck didn't have pictures of cartoon characters on it; then they'd be pressing the case even harder.
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« Reply #85291 on: September 16, 2015, 02:28:47 pm »

So, i got fired the other day. It was over me, apparently sayng pro kkk things. I was telling another employee about an African American who infiltrated the KKK.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85292 on: September 16, 2015, 02:30:15 pm »

He's lucky the cl9ck didn't have pictures of cartoon characters on it; then they'd be pressing the case even harder.
Confusing texas with australia is bad form.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85293 on: September 16, 2015, 02:33:33 pm »

He's lucky the clock didn't have pictures of cartoon characters on it; then they'd be pressing the case even harder.
Confusing texas with australia is bad form.

No, that was a reference to an American case from back in 2007 in Masaachusetts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_bomb_scare
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85294 on: September 16, 2015, 02:51:22 pm »

So, i got fired the other day. It was over me, apparently sayng pro kkk things. I was telling another employee about an African American who infiltrated the KKK.
That sounds like the sort of thing you could sue over.
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« Reply #85295 on: September 16, 2015, 02:51:52 pm »

So, i got fired the other day. It was over me, apparently sayng pro kkk things. I was telling another employee about an African American who infiltrated the KKK.
But you can't mention the feelbads! We must pretend the feelbads do not exist!

...Seriously though, that sucks. Hope you weren't too attached to your job.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85296 on: September 16, 2015, 02:57:45 pm »

Honestly, though, the obsession with evil AI gets me. It's not like it would be difficult to raise healthy, well-balanced AI. Simply teach them to act ethically, raise them as your own beloved children.

And, y'know, make sure that the people making and raising them have all their cookies in the tin.
You probably need thought police to tell if people have all their cookies in the tin.  Then drastically lower those standards to the correct cookies in the tin.

And teaching ethics?  Why not pre-program it?  Need a whole battalion of lawyers to close up loopholes too...
One theory of developing strong AI is teaching it like one would teach a child, like FD is describing. Less control than pre-programming all the needed values into it, like raising a child, you don't know how the child will grow up and do with its life, you could very well find you raised a robo-Hitler or something. But if you pre-program every little thing into it, that would increase the work required in developing such an ai by a huuuuge amount, and increasing the chance of logical errors or other such flaws or bugs in the code by a likewise huuuge amount.

I'm partial to the whole "raise an ai like a child" idea, because that sounds fly as hell.

More than that, too. If an AI has "ethics" only by virtue of having an ethical code mandated by its programming, it's not ethical. You run into the same problems as you see in Asimov's stories (and SS13, heh): if the ethical subroutines are tampered with, removed, destroyed, &c., the AI has no reason to continue behaving ethically. Raise an AI as a child and teach it to behave ethically? You can't take that away, it's part of the person that it is.

Same reasoning for killswitches being a bad idea: you're treating a newborn and later an adult thinking being as if they were a dangerous criminal. Ways to cut off the AI's control of important systems? Sure. Not a threat of death, though.

Also, "thought police"? As if we don't already have screening processes for psychological health and stability for important positions.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85297 on: September 16, 2015, 03:08:16 pm »

So, i got fired the other day. It was over me, apparently sayng pro kkk things. I was telling another employee about an African American who infiltrated the KKK.

Chances are your boss had it out for you and was looking for an excuse to get rid of you, however flimsy.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85298 on: September 16, 2015, 04:35:26 pm »

"The job asks for sixteen piles of tattoo sheets. I gave you one extra. Also, the lining is shit, the colours frequently change, with none of them matching what the customer ordered, the text on the back is not aligned with the front, and the last three piles are garbage, so just throw them out when you get down there."

Doesn't that mean I'm short two piles, not up one? Yet if anything goes wrong it's my fault.
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« Reply #85299 on: September 16, 2015, 05:17:18 pm »

But you can't mention the feelbads! We must pretend the feelbads do not exist!

...Seriously though, that sucks. Hope you weren't too attached to your job.

One of the best i've EVER had. Not to mention that I can't collect unemployment, and i have 2 dollars in my account right now.  Thanks, by the way.  What do you mean the feelbads?




Chances are your boss had it out for you and was looking for an excuse to get rid of you, however flimsy.

Actually, I had JUST got moved to a better shift to learn more. I was learning to replace a seal, and boot up, and shut down the machinery. We were on a first name basis.  Really, it comes down to an African American filing a complaint, and the company feeling it HAS to do something.



That sounds like the sort of thing you could sue over.
Thanks, but That would require money I don't have. Its also a He said/She said case. It comes down to an African American male telling on a white male. It would depend HIGHLY on the judge i get, not to mention calling everyone from different shifts for a day, necessitating a shutdown.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85300 on: September 16, 2015, 05:29:40 pm »

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85301 on: September 16, 2015, 06:11:26 pm »

Honestly, though, the obsession with evil AI gets me. It's not like it would be difficult to raise healthy, well-balanced AI. Simply teach them to act ethically, raise them as your own beloved children.

And, y'know, make sure that the people making and raising them have all their cookies in the tin.
You probably need thought police to tell if people have all their cookies in the tin.  Then drastically lower those standards to the correct cookies in the tin.

And teaching ethics?  Why not pre-program it?  Need a whole battalion of lawyers to close up loopholes too...
One theory of developing strong AI is teaching it like one would teach a child, like FD is describing. Less control than pre-programming all the needed values into it, like raising a child, you don't know how the child will grow up and do with its life, you could very well find you raised a robo-Hitler or something. But if you pre-program every little thing into it, that would increase the work required in developing such an ai by a huuuuge amount, and increasing the chance of logical errors or other such flaws or bugs in the code by a likewise huuuge amount.

I'm partial to the whole "raise an ai like a child" idea, because that sounds fly as hell.
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More than that, too. If an AI has "ethics" only by virtue of having an ethical code mandated by its programming, it's not ethical. You run into the same problems as you see in Asimov's stories (and SS13, heh): if the ethical subroutines are tampered with, removed, destroyed, &c., the AI has no reason to continue behaving ethically. Raise an AI as a child and teach it to behave ethically? You can't take that away, it's part of the person that it is.

So would the built-in ethical programming. Like an instinct or a gut reaction. You're under-thinking things.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85303 on: September 16, 2015, 07:56:53 pm »

I saw a guy who was writing notes with žese šings earlier today. I suppose it might save še guy some small amount of time in handwriting, but it seems like more trouble žan it's worš to me, and it really hurts readability.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85304 on: September 16, 2015, 07:59:40 pm »

I saw a guy who was writing notes with žese šings earlier today. I suppose it might save še guy some small amount of time in handwriting, but it seems like more trouble žan it's worš to me, and it really hurts readability.
Yeah but it's like those two people who learned Latin to speak with words no one else can understand for reasons quite unclear; when you can, do it because you can
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