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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85305 on: September 16, 2015, 05:29:40 pm »

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85306 on: September 16, 2015, 06:11:26 pm »

Honestly, though, the obsession with evil AI gets me. It's not like it would be difficult to raise healthy, well-balanced AI. Simply teach them to act ethically, raise them as your own beloved children.

And, y'know, make sure that the people making and raising them have all their cookies in the tin.
You probably need thought police to tell if people have all their cookies in the tin.  Then drastically lower those standards to the correct cookies in the tin.

And teaching ethics?  Why not pre-program it?  Need a whole battalion of lawyers to close up loopholes too...
One theory of developing strong AI is teaching it like one would teach a child, like FD is describing. Less control than pre-programming all the needed values into it, like raising a child, you don't know how the child will grow up and do with its life, you could very well find you raised a robo-Hitler or something. But if you pre-program every little thing into it, that would increase the work required in developing such an ai by a huuuuge amount, and increasing the chance of logical errors or other such flaws or bugs in the code by a likewise huuuge amount.

I'm partial to the whole "raise an ai like a child" idea, because that sounds fly as hell.
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More than that, too. If an AI has "ethics" only by virtue of having an ethical code mandated by its programming, it's not ethical. You run into the same problems as you see in Asimov's stories (and SS13, heh): if the ethical subroutines are tampered with, removed, destroyed, &c., the AI has no reason to continue behaving ethically. Raise an AI as a child and teach it to behave ethically? You can't take that away, it's part of the person that it is.

So would the built-in ethical programming. Like an instinct or a gut reaction. You're under-thinking things.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85308 on: September 16, 2015, 07:56:53 pm »

I saw a guy who was writing notes with ■ese ­ings earlier today. I suppose it might save ­e guy some small amount of time in handwriting, but it seems like more trouble ■an it's wor­ to me, and it really hurts readability.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85309 on: September 16, 2015, 07:59:40 pm »

I saw a guy who was writing notes with ■ese ­ings earlier today. I suppose it might save ­e guy some small amount of time in handwriting, but it seems like more trouble ■an it's wor­ to me, and it really hurts readability.
Yeah but it's like those two people who learned Latin to speak with words no one else can understand for reasons quite unclear; when you can, do it because you can

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85310 on: September 16, 2015, 08:03:03 pm »

I feel like it would be better to just use the thorn to represent "the"
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85311 on: September 16, 2015, 08:33:06 pm »

Oh my Lord I think I've met a son of Nurgle who thought that everyone freaking out over why he'd been wearing the same clothes for the last two weeks was a criticism of his fashion sense

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85312 on: September 16, 2015, 08:35:53 pm »

Perhaps hobo chic has been catching on in their area?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85313 on: September 16, 2015, 08:36:19 pm »

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85314 on: September 16, 2015, 08:36:31 pm »

I saw a guy who was writing notes with ■ese ­ings earlier today. I suppose it might save ­e guy some small amount of time in handwriting, but it seems like more trouble ■an it's wor­ to me, and it really hurts readability.
Yeah but it's like those two people who learned Latin to speak with words no one else can understand for reasons quite unclear; when you can, do it because you can

As the great philosopher Iamblichus once said, "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur."
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85315 on: September 16, 2015, 08:42:46 pm »

I saw a guy who was writing notes with ■ese ­ings earlier today. I suppose it might save ­e guy some small amount of time in handwriting, but it seems like more trouble ■an it's wor­ to me, and it really hurts readability.
I have a friend who knows shorthand, real shorthand.  It's incomprehensible to me, but is impressively compact.  Definitely helps.
That guy you know is being kinda cool/silly though.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85316 on: September 16, 2015, 08:43:51 pm »

They're accusing him of knowing that it looked like a bomb, basically.  Intentionally creating a scare, as a prank or attention thing.  I don't think he did, sounds like he was just really naive (14 years old).
It's also definitely possible it was because his name is Ahmed Mohamed, he is Muslim, and it's September.
And, as we all know, the actions of terrorists from fourteen years ago implicate all people that look even remotely similar to said terrorists forever, regardless of actual belief or resonable capability to perform terrorism. It's the rules, guys.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85317 on: September 16, 2015, 08:45:00 pm »

Alternatively, because it's September and he's brown, it's literally impossible for him to make a fucking mistake.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85318 on: September 16, 2015, 08:45:47 pm »

I saw a guy who was writing notes with ■ese ­ings earlier today. I suppose it might save ­e guy some small amount of time in handwriting, but it seems like more trouble ■an it's wor­ to me, and it really hurts readability.
Yeah but it's like those two people who learned Latin to speak with words no one else can understand for reasons quite unclear; when you can, do it because you can

As the great philosopher Iamblichus once said, "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur."

Heh, maybe I'll start using them too. I'll be that guy. Thinking about it more I suppose can see the appeal of using a single letter for those sounds, instead of a digraph.

Not online though, unless I get an Icelandic keyboard or something. Alt-codes are clunky as fuck.

I saw a guy who was writing notes with ■ese ­ings earlier today. I suppose it might save ­e guy some small amount of time in handwriting, but it seems like more trouble ■an it's wor­ to me, and it really hurts readability.
I have a friend who knows shorthand, real shorthand.  It's incomprehensible to me, but is impressively compact.  Definitely helps.
That guy you know is being kinda cool/silly though.

I tried to learn how to shorthand, I really did, but I just couldn't get into it. The phonetics and the very similar characters leave too steep a learning curve for me without having someone to help me along.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #85319 on: September 16, 2015, 08:48:06 pm »

Alternatively, because it's September and he's brown, it's literally impossible for him to make a fucking mistake.
"Throwing together" a clock in a single morning and bringing it in to show to his teacher is a mistake?
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