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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 8272325 times)

Criptfeind

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #109380 on: September 27, 2016, 08:27:17 pm »

This is true as well, I know that many of the animals at the zoo I go too are there because they are unsuited for the wild. A bald eagle who broke his wing so badly he'll never fly again, a albino hawk, who was found starving and nursed back to health multiple times before they stopped putting him back out in the wilds, a pack of bears, rescued as cubs from a forest fire, who never got a chance to learn vital skills from adults.

What Sirus said is unfortunately enough the truth, even if there were unlimited nature reserves available and no need for zoos to bring light to the issues facing the natural world, they would still be needed to house these animals.

i still dunno why they even shot him at all

Because he had a kid in his bonecrushingly powerful hands.
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« Reply #109381 on: September 27, 2016, 08:29:08 pm »

i still dunno why they even shot him at all

D'ya want a rep as a child-killin' zoo, or just incompetent fuckhead zoo?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #109382 on: September 27, 2016, 08:30:57 pm »

I tend to favor my own species over others, even in regards to its dumbest individuals.

Probably because I tend to eat the living things which aren't of my species :v
I wonder how gorillaflesh tastes.

Anyway, yea, they could've been more careful about the whole thing, but still, a gorilla dragging a small child over hard concrete flooring isn't exactly the most soothing sight ever, plus I'm not really sure if any substance known to man can put an adult gorilla down before it gets angry enough to bash a child's head in, unless you happen to have some curare on hand. But at that point you might as well just shoot it with a bullet, as its likely a way less painful way to die :U
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #109383 on: September 27, 2016, 08:32:00 pm »

TBH zoos should include in ticket sales/entry an acceptance that violating safety measures doesn't impose any liability on the zoo or staff for injuries/disease/death. If someone wants to be a moron and stick their hand into enclosures, let their child climb barriers, let them deal with the consequences. Zoos should only be held responsible when there is no component of visitor guilt in the incident. Someone taunts big cats by shouting and throwing stuff, and it turns out that the moat wasn't quite wide enough to deter an annoyed tiger? Not the zoo's fault.

Same deal as safaris. If you do dumb shit and break the rules, it's on you.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #109384 on: September 27, 2016, 08:33:01 pm »

haha yeah but why is your infant son able to fall into a gorilla enclosure in the first place
if he was killed (or even if nothing happened, i dunno) that's criminal negligence
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« Reply #109385 on: September 27, 2016, 08:34:13 pm »

TBH zoos should include in ticket sales/entry an acceptance that violating safety measures doesn't impose any liability on the zoo or staff for injuries/disease/death. If someone wants to be a moron and stick their hand into enclosures, let their child climb barriers, let them deal with the consequences. Zoos should only be held responsible when there is no component of visitor guilt in the incident. Someone taunts big cats by shouting and throwing stuff, and it turns out that the moat wasn't quite wide enough to deter an annoyed tiger? Not the zoo's fault.

Same deal as safaris. If you do dumb shit and break the rules, it's on you.
This wouldn't solve the issue of course, the zoo didn't get sued for letting a child die, they choose to kill a animal over letting a child die. Unless you think the zoo made this choice purely from a liability standpoint and not because they made a moral choice.
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« Reply #109386 on: September 27, 2016, 08:35:42 pm »

haha yeah but why is your infant son able to fall into a gorilla enclosure in the first place
if he was killed (or even if nothing happened, i dunno) that's criminal negligence

Why you not paying attention to your infant son (or fuck it, any child) in a public space?
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« Reply #109387 on: September 27, 2016, 08:37:01 pm »

... haven't we already done this? Pretty sure this conversation happened closer to the actual event.
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« Reply #109388 on: September 27, 2016, 08:37:10 pm »

And its not like you can just write this off as some sort of contractual obligation. There's no court I know of that would even allow that kind of contract to be enforceable.

The thing is, a goddamn child managed to just jump into his enclosure. Thats not exactly the safest enclosure ever IMHO, for both the animal and the atendees.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #109389 on: September 27, 2016, 08:38:20 pm »

haha yeah but why is your infant son able to fall into a gorilla enclosure in the first place
if he was killed (or even if nothing happened, i dunno) that's criminal negligence

Why you not paying attention to your infant son (or fuck it, any child) in a public space?

You'd be incredibly surprised at how fast children are.

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« Reply #109390 on: September 27, 2016, 08:41:33 pm »

I feel like people who are totally blown away that a child could get away from an adult in a busy area like a zoo have never interacted with a child in zoo... Or anywhere.

It was probably negligent on the parents part.
It was probably negligent on the zoos part.

Sometimes smugly blaming people for things that happen and implying you think a child deserved to die because of it's own actions or the actions of others isn't actually that helpful or clever.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #109391 on: September 27, 2016, 08:47:43 pm »

I was specifically responding to:
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And before someone goes, "nur nur nur but if da animals wasn't in da zoo dey would be dead," no, that's what nature reserves and the like are for.
Some animals would indeed be dead if they were not in monitored captivity, whether from injury, disease, or (in the cases of animals raised entirely in captivity and not specially raised for eventual release) their own simple ignorance of the natural world.
*sigh* When I said "and the like" that includes all those varied kinds of charitable, non-zoo animal sanctuaries and shelters that exist.
There aren't too many around here unless you count dog/cat shelters, so forgive me if I can't list off every possible variety by name.
Whatever the case, there's no actual need for zoos. They're something that should be phased out.   

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So in other words, it's not a simple issue and giving your opposition a dumb accent doesn't change that.
...Most of y'all are already American, I don't need to. :P

... haven't we already done this? Pretty sure this conversation happened closer to the actual event.
I blame TempAcc. I'm pretty sure there have been extensive discussions on the matter before, but I couldn't let such a horrifying view on the matter go unopposed. Sorry for unintentionally re-opening this stale can of worms. >.>
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« Reply #109392 on: September 27, 2016, 08:50:28 pm »

*sigh* When I said "and the like" that includes all those varied kinds of charitable, non-zoo animal sanctuaries and shelters that exist.

So basically you mean zoos that don't let people in to see the animals?
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« Reply #109393 on: September 27, 2016, 08:52:21 pm »

Generally they have more of a focus on rehabilitation and release, rather than just keeping critters indefinitely.
Obviously, though, if a creature is truly unsuited to life in the wild, from what I've read/seen they aren't about to just throw 'em out there anyway.
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« Reply #109394 on: September 27, 2016, 09:02:02 pm »

... haven't we already done this? Pretty sure this conversation happened closer to the actual event.

I believe it's my fault. I was whinging about the whole meme-thing a few pages back. In brief; good call, very unfortunate, I couldn't quite make out what level of dunder-headed irony the thing's gotten to and had a bit of a moan about it.
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