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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 9720740 times)

Silverthrone

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #112275 on: November 09, 2016, 06:52:43 pm »

Be as it may, I imagine "Oh, most people who supported him didn't know this was a possibility, and maybe didn't particularly want it, either" will be an incredibly small comfort for someone who does end up in one of Pence's Bugger-Belsens. I suppose it's not set entirely in stone if it will happen, but just that it's still an option... It's quite warranted to be rather upset.
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« Reply #112276 on: November 09, 2016, 06:55:11 pm »

Well, I guess I'm done with the WTF thread for today. Just wanted to say my piece.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #112277 on: November 09, 2016, 06:55:51 pm »

It is entirely possible for folks to have voted for Trump and not known a thing about his VP or his VP's policies, y'know. That's not much better, since it's uneducated voting, but I find it much easier to believe than the idea that, in a country where gay rights have been slowly-but-steadily pushing forward, more than half the country is practically salivating at the thought of torturing LGBTs.

Maybe I'm wrong.

ETA: To clarify, I'm not saying that there aren't people who feel that way, because unfortunately and obviously there's still plenty of bigotry out there.
Note the other part was not caring, Siru, and uneducated voting is just that, at the very least when it's not an issue that has particularly been covered up. Only so much difference between salivating at something like that and giving so little of a damn you're willing to elect pence, or someone that willingly chose him as a political partner.

I get the whole other considerations, other issues thing. They're there, they exist, definitely. Different pressures, different calls on your time, all sorts of stuff. Bein' uneducated on a subject ain't necessarily something you do out of malice. But there's lines you draw, and there's a message you send when you say to a person, however unintentionally, that that person's life, well being, and sanity, ain't that line. That you may have reasons you didn't notice the line was there ain't comfort worth the meaning.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #112278 on: November 09, 2016, 06:58:42 pm »

I kind of feel like deja vu.

Like does anyone making plans to leave the country or w.e. no think the same talks happened 4 years ago when obama won a second term?


Its a coping mechanism, sfaic.  take a pill, relax, and feel safe that our laws were upheld.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #112279 on: November 09, 2016, 07:00:38 pm »

I kind of feel like deja vu.

Like does anyone making plans to leave the country or w.e. no think the same talks happened 4 years ago when obama won a second term?


Its a coping mechanism, sfaic.  take a pill, relax, and feel safe that our laws were upheld.
The will of the people wasn't.

*looks at popular vote*
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« Reply #112280 on: November 09, 2016, 07:02:13 pm »

British Columbia split into three areas of equal population.

Its kinda funny that we have all this space and most of us live in one tiny corner of it.  Also look at all the room we have for the disenchanted Americans!
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #112281 on: November 09, 2016, 07:03:18 pm »

The will of the people wasn't.
I am pretty sure that every time the "will of the people" argument gets thrown around, some kind of revolution starts... so, when are you moving out of States exactly?
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« Reply #112282 on: November 09, 2016, 07:04:14 pm »

The will of the people wasn't.
I am pretty sure that every time the "will of the people" argument gets thrown around, some kind of revolution starts... so, when are you moving out of States exactly?
You assume I'm moving?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #112283 on: November 09, 2016, 07:05:21 pm »

I kind of feel like deja vu.

Like does anyone making plans to leave the country or w.e. no think the same talks happened 4 years ago when obama won a second term?


Its a coping mechanism, sfaic.  take a pill, relax, and feel safe that our laws were upheld.
We know they did. We also know the basis for concern is a hell of a lot different. Obama wasn't calling for what trump has been. Biden damn sure wasn't pence.

I'll feel safe if the laws that are keeping folks I care about safe are still being upheld this time next year, and the year after, and so on. For now, this country ain't as safe as it was for kith and kin, because that being true isn't more or less certain anymore. It might manage to move back towards that, but we're not going to be sure for a good long while yet.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #112284 on: November 09, 2016, 07:20:26 pm »

I understand the discontent, but Id be a liar if I said I shared it.
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« Reply #112285 on: November 09, 2016, 07:24:38 pm »

Im glad its over guys.  We should all be happy its over.  I'm mad that they spoilered the sitcom that will come in 30 years, though.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #112286 on: November 09, 2016, 07:50:20 pm »

Saying that anyone who supported Trump supports torturing the non-hetero seems about as accurate as saying that anyone who supports Hillary supports trying to quiet or shame sexual assault victims.
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« Reply #112287 on: November 09, 2016, 07:57:59 pm »

What's more, it's exactly this sort of zero-sum rhetoric that led to Trump getting elected in the first place. Liberal elites really screwed this election up, and have only themselves to blame. It's not surprising that when you spend decades shouting from your graduate-educated pulpit that ensuring dignified, reliable work for blue-collar workers is less important to progressivism than a tiny sliver of the population getting called "xe", then blue-collar workers will turn against you.

And before you go after me claiming that progressivism has never said that- of course it has. Perception is reality in politics, and we would be wise to remember that. Why should some guy in a trailer in Kansas listen to what some critical theory ideologue at Colombia has to say? The latter, though nominally in the business of creating a more just and equitable society, has quite ironically probably caused more social fracturing than s/he's ever prevented. But, hey, at least we've gotten better at challenging white supremacy in pumpkins!
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« Reply #112288 on: November 09, 2016, 07:58:38 pm »

Saying that anyone who supported Trump supports torturing the non-hetero seems about as accurate as saying that anyone who supports Hillary supports trying to quiet or shame sexual assault victims.

I whole heartedly agree.

Besides it is his Vice President that wants to do that, not Trump.
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« Reply #112289 on: November 09, 2016, 08:03:00 pm »

I can't really remember making the point that all Trump supporters, down to the last man, whole-heartedly supports it. I believe my point was that most likely don't, but it would be small comfort nonetheless.
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