Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: 1 ... 8892 8893 [8894] 8895 8896 ... 10142

Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 7118369 times)

martinuzz

  • Bay Watcher
  • High dwarf
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133395 on: May 08, 2018, 03:05:02 am »

Vanilla is now more expensive per kilo than silver, at 500 euros/kg, after two consecutive failed harvests in Madagascar.
Some Dutch farmers are now trying to figure out how to best grow the vanilla orchid in greenhouses, with some success.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2018, 03:07:34 am by martinuzz »
Logged
Optimists have just used up the last bit of hope. Run for your lives!

Enjoy the freedom to explore the limits of your constraints

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=73719.msg1830479#msg1830479

IcyTea31

  • Bay Watcher
  • Studying functions and fiction
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133396 on: May 08, 2018, 03:26:42 am »

Meanwhile, more and more products use vanillin rather than vanilla. Let's hope people don't forget what actual vanilla tastes like, as has happened with bananas, strawberries and even tomatoes.
Logged
Raise the white flag and don't give up.

scriver

  • Bay Watcher
  • City streets ain't got much pity
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133397 on: May 08, 2018, 03:36:47 am »

That depends if you make a difference between the original strawberries and strawberries or not. Smultron and jordgubbar are two completely different berries to Swedes.
Logged
Love, scriver~

wierd

  • Bay Watcher
  • I like to eat small children.
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133398 on: May 08, 2018, 03:59:33 am »

Without exception, domesticated strawberries taste abhorrent.  If you want real strawberry flavor the way it was meant to be tasted, you must eat the teeny tiny wild kind. Those are not a commercially viable crop because of fragility, spoilage, and cost of harvest. You have to grow them yourself, and the yields are small. 

They are totally worth it though.

Similar story with selectively bred domestic tomatoes.  If you want actual flavor, you need an ugly heirloom tomato. The kind with green stripes and ugly blobby apearance and all-- and it has to ripen on the vine.

Same story with domesticated blueberries.  The tiny birds eye size wild ones have such amazing flavor; the big domestic ones just taste like purple mush.
Logged

Jopax

  • Bay Watcher
  • Cat on a hat
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133399 on: May 08, 2018, 04:36:25 am »

Dunno what kind of strawberries you guys have over there but the domesticated ones here are pretty damn good. The first few batches usually aren't that sweet but as they ripen more properly they become damn tasty little things.

Similarly for tomatoes, there's several varieties, most are generally fine but imo the beefheart one is probably the juiciest and tastiest of the bunch.


Also original banananana taste? You mean the nigh-inedible wild banananas? Or the banananana flavoring, which is actualy how an older, now nearly exticnt (yay for plant cloning and disease) breed tasted like. Producers mostly kept it like that because people were used to it, even tho bananananas today don't taste the same.

Edit:

Oh right, my wtf today. Got contacted by a company for a job. Now the WTF part is, I sent them an email about a potential interview a month ago, then we exchanged some emails trying to hash out how it'd happen, them saying they aren't always here or whatever and me saying it's not an issue of time they just gotta say when and where and I'll be there. That was the last of it, this morning I got a reply saying they couldn't contact me because I hadn't given them my phone number and that I should call to arrange an interview. This completely fine and I'll probably go just to see what's it about, but why wait a goddamn month for this :V
« Last Edit: May 08, 2018, 04:54:01 am by Jopax »
Logged
"my batteries are low and it's getting dark"
AS - IG

IcyTea31

  • Bay Watcher
  • Studying functions and fiction
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133400 on: May 08, 2018, 04:45:18 am »

"Strawberry flavour" tastes like neither wild nor cultivated strawberries. That's my point.
Logged
Raise the white flag and don't give up.

Jopax

  • Bay Watcher
  • Cat on a hat
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133401 on: May 08, 2018, 04:55:30 am »

True, tho I was replying to wierd with that one, the point about bananananana flavor still stands tho, it's the actual flavor but of a different breed.
Logged
"my batteries are low and it's getting dark"
AS - IG

wierd

  • Bay Watcher
  • I like to eat small children.
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133402 on: May 08, 2018, 04:59:20 am »

It's not just me bro.

https://www.npr.org/2012/05/17/152944880/bigger-means-better-not-with-strawberries

Americans seem to be obsessed with larger sizes, but this has resulted in a tremendous loss of flavor profile for the berries.
Logged

Kagus

  • Bay Watcher
  • Olive oil. Don't you?
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133403 on: May 08, 2018, 05:24:15 am »

Beefheart tastiest tomato? Y'all out yo damn minds, and I don't even like tomatoes.

I've had plenty of entirely palatable domesticated strawberries, but I absolutely agree that wild strawberries are on another level entirely. And I have no idea what artificial strawberry flavor is even supposed to taste like, because it certainly isn't strawberries. Same for watermelon flavor, but watermelon Jolly Ranchers are still the best.

Artificial banana flavor has never sat well with me either... Reminds me of epoxy resin. Somehow it surprises me that there used to be a banana with that flavor naturally, but nature be naturin'.


Also, while comparing vanilla to silver is fun, 1kg of vanilla is a hell of a lot more than 1kg of silver... Kinda the whole reason the spice trade was as popular as it was, since you could get more value out of smaller loads and save on space/weight.

Like, you don't need a bad harvest of saffron for it to be worth more per kilo than precious metals, but you need a hell of a lot more gold to make a dinner plate than you need saffron to make a dinner.

wierd

  • Bay Watcher
  • I like to eat small children.
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133404 on: May 08, 2018, 05:35:57 am »

I did not say beefheart specifically.  I said heirloom tomato.  There are all kinds of heirloom tomato.  These were not bred to be pretty. They were bred to be flavorful and productive.  They are often ugly as sin.

Spoiler: See these guys. (click to show/hide)

The reason why "Pretty tomatoes" taste awful is because the same genes that control uniform coloring, also control chlorophyll production in the fruit, and this reduces the sugar content that develops in the fruit. It also has been implicated in reduced production of flavinoids and other factors.

Heirloom tomatoes mostly have those genes intact, and so have richer and fuller flavor profiles.  They are just ugly.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2018, 05:40:51 am by wierd »
Logged

Kagus

  • Bay Watcher
  • Olive oil. Don't you?
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133405 on: May 08, 2018, 05:41:53 am »

I was responding to Jopax's assertion that beefhearts are some of the juiciest and tastiest tomatoes around.

And you somehow managed to find a picture of heirlooms that actually look nice, shame on you!

Jopax

  • Bay Watcher
  • Cat on a hat
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133406 on: May 08, 2018, 06:02:07 am »

Again, no idea how they are in your part of the world but here they look kinda like some of those heirlooms in that picture and they're about as tomato as they get.

I think this might be one of those "my nutella isn't the same as your nutella" types of situations where yes it's generally the same thing in name but there's regional variation to take into account.

If you're ever in the balkans I suggest you try the produce, it's pretty damn good.
Logged
"my batteries are low and it's getting dark"
AS - IG

Kagus

  • Bay Watcher
  • Olive oil. Don't you?
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133407 on: May 08, 2018, 06:26:03 am »

Looking at some other photos, that does seem to be the likely case. What gets marketed as "Beefheart" in the states is generally just extra-large, very symmetrical tomatoes that are the epitome of everything wrong with breeding for appearance. They're huge and a very "clean" pale red color, but have almost no flavor and are extremely watery.

You ever get those massive, translucent tomato slices on fast food burgers or whatnot? That's beefheart. Or at least what gets passed as being such.

wierd

  • Bay Watcher
  • I like to eat small children.
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133408 on: May 08, 2018, 06:39:13 am »

Jopax:

In the US, people do not cook anymore.  No. Really. They don't cook any more. It is becoming a lost skill.
As such, the people tend to buy based on appearance, rather than actual quality. (Again, because they do not have the needed skills or knowledge to pick good produce.)

You can see that exemplified in this totally ordinary looking US supermarket produce section.


Note the uniform size, color, texture, and shine of those McMatos. All are bland and flavorless, and often do not properly yield to the gentle touch like a properly ripe tomato should.  People just do not know any better, and are known to simply NOT BUY proper tomatoes when they are presented on the shelf.

If your supermarkets stock actual proper tomatoes, and people still know how to shop for them, use them, and how to cook delicious food at home-- GOOD.

That is not the case on this side of the salty pond.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2018, 06:51:06 am by wierd »
Logged

Yoink

  • Bay Watcher
  • OKAY, FINE.
    • View Profile
Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #133409 on: May 08, 2018, 06:53:48 am »

Supermarkets can't win, really - often the veggies on sale at the local one look bruised and horrid, so I avoid them, considering all the horror stories one hears about old, preservative-packed vegetables being shuffled around their produce section for months or years after they should have been either eaten or scrapped.

Who knows, maybe they just have more-natural produce on sale, but after winding up with awful, stale fruit and veg on at least a couple of occasions, I'd much rather go to an actual fruit shop/grocer (or whatever they're supposed to be called) for fresh veg.

...Of course, I have no qualms about buying tinned beans and bags of lettuce or spinach. >.>
Logged
Booze is Life for Yoink

To deprive him of Drink is to steal divinity from God.
you need to reconsider your life
If there's any cause worth dying for, it's memes.
Pages: 1 ... 8892 8893 [8894] 8895 8896 ... 10142