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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 6154634 times)

Reelya

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« Reply #137910 on: September 18, 2018, 10:06:13 am »

The rules for cousins are actually pretty interesting and can be extended to be more comprehensive.

A 1st cousin is a descendant of your parent's siblings, a 2nd cousin is a descendant of your parent's parent's siblings, a 3rd cousin is a descendant of your parent's parent's parent's siblings and so on. Actual siblings can quite reasonably be called "0th cousins" and this fits the pattern in a logical and mathematically satisfying way.

Also, there's a concept of "double cousins" where one pair of siblings marries another pair of siblings - they're double-cousins by the fact that they can trace cousin-hood from either their mother's side or father's side. If you extend the concept that siblings are 0th-cousins, then a full sibling is in fact a double-0th-cousin while a half-sibling is a single-0th-cousin. However ... since everyone traces back to common ancestors, everyone is really double-cousins by definition, but your cousin-level (as in 1st cousin, 2nd cousin, 3rd cousin and so forth) is different on your mother's side vs father's side. We just call them double-cousins when the cousin-level on both sides of the tree is the same.

How it works that you can be your own cousin is that if you go back far enough on your mother's side and father's side you share common ancestors, therefore by the rules you can work out what cousin-type you'd be to yourself if your were separate people. So you could be your own 17th-cousin by the rules as outlined, since there are multiple lines of inheritance that connect you with the same common ancestor.
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« Reply #137911 on: September 18, 2018, 10:07:51 am »

It's not even a matter of common ancestor; there's evidence suggesting that cro-magnon and neanderthals intermarried at various points during their parallel history. There are (theoretically) still a few people with bits and pieces of neanderthal DNA living in the modern world.

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« Reply #137912 on: September 18, 2018, 10:31:50 am »

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« Reply #137913 on: September 18, 2018, 10:50:45 am »

Well, humans can learn to speak past a certain age. Their grasp on morphology and syntactic laws is exceedimgly shaky, though, and those learning past the optimum stage tend, at best, to form sentences in much the same way as a child would from then on.
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« Reply #137914 on: September 18, 2018, 10:51:42 am »

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« Reply #137915 on: September 18, 2018, 10:57:44 am »

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I'm curious as to what source this is from. The only instances of disruption to typical child language acquisition of which I am aware come in early teens or late childhood. Child abuse of the level required to prevent a child from picking up a guardian's language tends to be caught before then, and the cases in which it is not are horrible.

I haven't heard of a case study wherein a human is left so totally isolated for thirty years.

Either way, they could. If only at a basic semantic level. Anything deeper is unlikely, however.
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« Reply #137916 on: September 18, 2018, 11:05:30 am »

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« Reply #137917 on: September 18, 2018, 11:23:03 am »

"Girl with half a brain becomes fluent in two languages"

Clearly, the number of languages you can learn is inversely proportional to the percentage of brain you have. Homeopathy was right. We can prove this by demonstrating that someone with 0% of their brain left is equally proficient in all possible languages.

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« Reply #137918 on: September 18, 2018, 11:29:22 am »

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« Reply #137919 on: September 18, 2018, 11:30:56 am »

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« Reply #137920 on: September 18, 2018, 11:34:49 am »

These are some strange correlations being made here

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« Reply #137921 on: September 18, 2018, 11:36:03 am »

These are some strange correlations being made here

The brain named itself ergo the United States faked the moon landing
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« Reply #137922 on: September 18, 2018, 11:37:50 am »

These are some strange correlations being made here

The brain named itself ergo the United States faked the moon landing

Checkmate, atheists.

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« Reply #137923 on: September 18, 2018, 11:39:08 am »

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« Reply #137924 on: September 18, 2018, 12:28:53 pm »

Still basically humans. It would be neat to do, but wouldn't introduce nearly as much value as bringing non-mammals into the fold.
Non-mammal insight would be amazing, but we're nowhere near able to uplift nonmammals.  We can't even uplift our machines, yet!

Neanderthals were arguably *there*.  I don't know if they'd be useful as thinkers, but surely their perspective would be fascinating.  If we could do a Jurassic Park on them, it would give us a lot of insight into the origin and branching of the human brain.

I don't feel like we've really tried hard enough at teaching them the traditional way to say that we need to "uplift" them through some kind of technology. It's still possible that we could turn whole species into people just by refining our techniques for teaching them language.

Humans very physically similar to us lived for a long time without having invented "society". Why can't non-mammals be introduced to that society as-is, without physical modification?
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