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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147990 on: October 20, 2019, 06:35:03 pm »

I'm just going to cry in the corner now. I genuinely try to control 3 and 4. 2 is tolerable, but 3 is insane, and 4 is scary.

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147991 on: October 20, 2019, 08:10:31 pm »

I'm pretty sure this guy is jobbing us.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147992 on: October 20, 2019, 08:22:14 pm »

They’re deliberately losing the match in such a manner to make the crowd think we’re good?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147993 on: October 20, 2019, 08:26:22 pm »

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147994 on: October 20, 2019, 09:17:38 pm »

They’re deliberately losing the match in such a manner to make the crowd think we’re good?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147995 on: October 20, 2019, 09:42:15 pm »

It's also generally a good idea to consult doctors for your medical advice. Not wannabes.

Missed this lovely jab from trekkin, but, you might still be interested to know that cyanoacrylate glue is used widely in medicine.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/cyanoacrylate

https://www.healthline.com/health/super-glue-on-cuts

Which lists several formulations, and brands, used in medicine.  All of them were developed specifically for medical use after off label use of ordinary superglue by military medics started using the stuff for medical triage.

All of them are effectively superglue. The major differences are in the reaction's biproducts, and the rigidity of the cyanoacrylate complexes. There's a wide selection of glues on the market, many of which produce these exact complexes.

The side effects of using industrial glue correspond with using it internally or on flexing areas, neither of which apply to application on a broken fingernail. The degree of toxicity in a tiny area of skin are appreciably similar to getting it on your skin. People have this happen all the time without I'll effect. The hazard is in it trapping harmful bacteria or irritating debris, promoting festering. Debriding the wound first resolves that risk.

While Trekkin is right that you should ask a doctor if you have questions or doubts, you should also do your own basic research before spouting off.

That way you don't come across like an asshole, like he just did. :)

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« Last Edit: October 20, 2019, 10:39:52 pm by wierd »
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« Reply #147996 on: October 21, 2019, 02:43:46 am »

Oh, I'm not contesting that cyanoacrylate has medical uses. My point was somewhat broader than that: that if you have an actual medical problem, it's best to consult someone who actually has the relevant training to evaluate how to apply general medical principles to your specific case. A medical doctorate is a fast way to establish that, although by no means sufficient.

You see, it's all very well to spout random facts you happen to know so long as no one really needs them, at which point it's no longer enough to know the basics, or the general principles, or the high-level idea as it applies to hypothetical, idealized cases. You actually need all the fiddly, boring exceptions that occupy so much time in higher-level undergrad courses and that are, in many ways, the point of graduate education: after a certain point, the best way to show you all the ways science can fail to work according to predictions is to just have the student fail at it. Medical training can't work that way from an ethical perspective, though, since you really don't want to just run newbie doctors through patients until they stop dying.

At some point in the process, it's not sufficient for your answer to happen to be correct. It also has to be demonstrably the most completely correct answer of which you could reasonably have known; this is sometimes called intellectual honesty. Unfortunately, being able to do that is a full-time job, and also necessary to be a doctor of any kind, let alone a medical doctor.

Do you recall, wierd, how you once told me you have no fear of being wrong? I can go find the quote if you like, but the exact wording isn't necessary. It's enough to note that a certain fear of being wrong is necessary to do real research and doubly necessary to practice good medicine, because there are serious consequences to only being right some of the time. Part of acquiring real credentials is demonstrating an awareness of those consequences and a willingness and ability to avoid them.

I don't point out your total lack of doctoral credentials just to needle you, wierd, or because I think you're stupid or ignorant; truth be told, most of the time on these boards you do as well as could be expected of a hobbyist, and I say that with high expectations and no trace of condescension. You get about as close as anyone can without hours to spend reading journal articles every day and years sunk into learning how. That's just not enough to provide advice on people's health and medical treatment, and it's dangerous to forget to disclaim that.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2019, 02:49:38 am by Trekkin »
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147997 on: October 21, 2019, 03:21:47 am »

One goes on night-time sword fights on rooftops and the other dreams of potatoes.

I've never actually fought anyone on a roof at night, to be fair. Only public squares. And once you get halfway through twilight the whole thing is a bit of a joke because it's really difficult to follow a narrow grey sword in half-light.

I'm pretty sure this guy is jobbing us.

The only medically recognised form of split personality that I know of is dissociative identity disorder, which is characterised significantly by dissociative amnesia, i.e. none of the alters really remembers properly what the others get up to. The one person I've chatted with who had a diagnosed case of DID would be very pleased if she could pick which alter was on the top at any given time.

As an interested amateur, it sounds more like something in the vein of schizophrenia or a schizophrenia-adjacent condition, or an elaborate troll.

Assuming it's real, it's definitely (in any case) cause to seek professional medical help. Violent behaviour over minor slights is the kind of thing that will land you in dire straits very quickly, be it caused by DID, schizophrenia, or something else entirely.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147998 on: October 21, 2019, 03:25:27 am »

Oh, I'm not contesting that cyanoacrylate has medical uses. My point was somewhat broader than that: that if you have an actual medical problem, it's best to consult someone who actually has the relevant training to evaluate how to apply general medical principles to your specific case. A medical doctorate is a fast way to establish that, although by no means sufficient.

You see, it's all very well to spout random facts you happen to know so long as no one really needs them, at which point it's no longer enough to know the basics, or the general principles, or the high-level idea as it applies to hypothetical, idealized cases. You actually need all the fiddly, boring exceptions that occupy so much time in higher-level undergrad courses and that are, in many ways, the point of graduate education: after a certain point, the best way to show you all the ways science can fail to work according to predictions is to just have the student fail at it. Medical training can't work that way from an ethical perspective, though, since you really don't want to just run newbie doctors through patients until they stop dying.

At some point in the process, it's not sufficient for your answer to happen to be correct. It also has to be demonstrably the most completely correct answer of which you could reasonably have known; this is sometimes called intellectual honesty. Unfortunately, being able to do that is a full-time job, and also necessary to be a doctor of any kind, let alone a medical doctor.

Do you recall, wierd, how you once told me you have no fear of being wrong? I can go find the quote if you like, but the exact wording isn't necessary. It's enough to note that a certain fear of being wrong is necessary to do real research and doubly necessary to practice good medicine, because there are serious consequences to only being right some of the time. Part of acquiring real credentials is demonstrating an awareness of those consequences and a willingness and ability to avoid them.

I don't point out your total lack of doctoral credentials just to needle you, wierd, or because I think you're stupid or ignorant; truth be told, most of the time on these boards you do as well as could be expected of a hobbyist, and I say that with high expectations and no trace of condescension. You get about as close as anyone can without hours to spend reading journal articles every day and years sunk into learning how. That's just not enough to provide advice on people's health and medical treatment, and it's dangerous to forget to disclaim that.

The flipside to that though, Trekkin, is that you seek medical advice for something that just needs a band-aid-- OR, worse yet, being stricken with inability to take decisive action in an emergency.

For a lost nail, with no explicable reason for the loss, yes-- you should consult a physician.  That is not a reason to leave an open wound open and untreated.  Amputations need to be left untreated other than local pressure to assure good reattachment, but you do not reattach lost fingernails.

In this particular case, the risks associated with being wrong are minimal;  The glue will peel of in about 4 to 7 days all on its own, by which time new nail should be growing from the nailbed. During that time, the glue will have provided mechanical protection of the nailbed to prevent further damage.


While it may seem easy for you to spout about, I actually do see a very large number of wounds and skin issues in my line of work. (Geriatric skin has a pronounced reduction in elastin, collagen, and a reduced population of fibroblasts. This results in substantially easier to damage, and much harder to treat skin conditions. I have seen a completely degloved hand, and assisted in putting the skin back. I have some degree of hands-on experience with this area.) Effective treatment is often placed on us low level employees. (Much like in your industry, lab techs are often the ones doing the wet chem, and you trust them to do that wet chem.)

I can tell you how to dress an injury so that it does not worsen, on your way to the doctor for the consult.  I cannot diagnose the reason for the nail loss, and I made no attempt to do so.  Only how to address the immediate concern of an open and tender nail bed.

Diagnoses are outside my scope of practice.  Applying dressings and providing treatments however, are well within it.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2019, 03:29:32 am by wierd »
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« Reply #147999 on: October 21, 2019, 04:35:33 am »

Windows managed to sneakily bypass my metered connection setting and install updates, and I can't uninstall them because now I can't operate the setting app, because it just stops working
EDIT: I bypassed the settings menu using the search function, and now I need to wait to see if this progress bar will ever actually fill
Edit2: well it filled, but I can't tell if it's instantly reinstalling the updates or if it's just using the same message
EDIT3: I can't tell if the fact that the uninstall update thing no longer displays date installed means it worked or if something is broken

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #148000 on: October 21, 2019, 04:39:10 am »

Linux is free.

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« Reply #148001 on: October 21, 2019, 04:45:55 am »

Another solution is not using the shit fest that is Windows 10.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #148002 on: October 21, 2019, 05:22:01 am »

My eyeball just became horrendously itchy for a moment. I think something must have got in it, but it wasn't painful, just itchy in the extreme.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #148003 on: October 21, 2019, 06:14:31 am »

My balls itch too sometimes.
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« Reply #148004 on: October 21, 2019, 06:42:35 am »

You and half the male population of The Witcher universe it seems...
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