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[Il Palazzo]

Sounds like the plot of Impostor.

[Naturegirl1999]

I kinda harp on the "belief is not sufficient" bandwagon, because I deal with dementia every day.

People with dementia genuinely believe some very bizarre things.  They are not "Lying" when they report these things, and insist on their truthfulness-- Lying requires knowledge of the deception.  Rather, they are relating non-factual accounts.


If I were to design a deep-cover reconnaissance probe, and had access to advanced AI and nanofabrication technologies, (and had precisely ZERO fucks given about ethics, either for AI or for sentience in general), the ideal design would be one that is indistinguishable from the studied subject population, and which is incapable of revealing any long term plans or details about its operation, because it itself does not know.

It would give completely unbiased return footage/data, because it does not choose what data to send-- it is always sending.  It just "Lives its life" down there, and tells me all about it, all the time, completely unawares.  Further, if it experiences all aspects of the subject population's culture-- such as birth and childhood, then its resultant "Personality" would be free of any meddling or bias on my part; It would be a member of the society it was sent to study covertly, and its own biases that it develops would be part of the dataset collected.


That of course, presumes that hyper-advanced aliens are up there, and that they have those qualifications. Russel's Teapot applies. 

The philosophical implications about such robotic probes are fun to explore though.

Yep. It’s funny to think thst all of us could be advanced probes like this and not know it

[Enemy post]

I can confirm that Naturegirl and Il Palazzo are human, on the grounds that I too am human.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Now that you have seen my normal human face, let us all go now and do human things. I suggest we all dangle our fragile limbs and delicious pets in water while not looking at them.

[Mathel]

Just one correction to wierd. Unless I knew that my signal can not be intercepted by the target civilisation, I would not make the probe send data all the time.
It would not do to have them discover my probe because it is sending a signal.

Rather, I would have the probe send data every 15 to 23 hours, time of sending would be "randomly" determined based on the environmental variables during the previous sending. That way, it would be difficult to detect the signal.

[pikachu17]

I can confirm that Naturegirl and Il Palazzo are human, on the grounds that I too am human.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Now that you have seen my normal human face, let us all go now and do human things. I suggest we all dangle our fragile limbs and delicious pets in water while not looking at them.

Wow. I didn't know Obama was on this forum.

[Naturegirl1999]

I get the point, pictures prove nothing. How can anyone prove they are human? Especially here, on the Internet?

[Eric Blank]

You can provide your social security number and credit card information. Only humans can have those things

[Enemy post]

Don't do that, it wastes valuable limb-dangling time.

[Iduno]

I get the point, pictures prove nothing. How can anyone prove they are human? Especially here, on the Internet?

It's the internet. Everyone is imaginary.

[MrRoboto75]

I would be assed to prove I'm human, but on most days I bare feel human anyways so

[Mathel]

We can not prove we are humans. But it would be exceptionaly difficult to prove anyone who acts like a human is not.

[wierd]

Especially if some of the more "scifi" tropes actually turn out to have some form of factual basis. (EG, "subspace" is a real thing, and technology can be embedded inside it, etc.) That shuts out huge parts of what could be a mechanism from currently available exploratory investigation.  You could lay such a mechanoid out on the table, and it would all be 100% normal looking meat!

[TamerVirus]

I'm only human, after all
Don't put your blame on me

[Iduno]

I'm only human, after all

Lies! Your name even admits you're a computer program.

[pikachu17]

I'm only human, after all

Lies! Your name even admits you're a computer program.

He's not a computer program.
He's the flu.