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Jake

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Bread and Bakeries
« on: November 08, 2010, 09:37:11 am »

I'd add this to the improved cooking thread, but it'd be so simple to implement it could be added to .31.17.
After milling, flour has to be turned into bread to be eaten, either in the kitchen or a special 'bakery' workshop. This reaction could optionally require fuel but leave behind ash.
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2010, 10:14:43 am »

Seems reasoable. Bread could be used as a base food for large forts. Perhaps we could allow dwarfs to carry the bread with them allowing them to eat wherever they are. This would be in the options screen to select whatever dwarfs will do this.
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2010, 10:52:34 am »

Dwarves don't use bread as food - they use it as a weapon.
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2010, 11:47:04 am »

Its already in the game.

Grow longland grass (regular wheat) or cave wheat, grind it into flour at a mill, and then bake it into something at a kitchen.

The resulting product is called bread. Mix water with flour and bake, and you get bread.
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 11:53:08 am »

Grow longland grass (regular wheat) or cave wheat, grind it into flour at a mill, and then bake it into something at a kitchen.

The resulting product is called bread.

No, the resulting product is called "biscuits", "stew", or "roast", depending on how many other ingredients you used.
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2010, 01:17:43 am »

Does its name make it not bread?

Longland grass is wheat. Its not called wheat, its called longland grass, but its still wheat. Its the same thing. Similarly with all of the other above ground crops. They're based on real life crops.
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 04:30:56 am »

I think it could be good bread would be both a food able to be eaten raw or cooked further as an ingredient for a roast or stew.
The same way you can cook the milk or make it into cheese then cook the cheese if you wish.
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2010, 07:25:31 am »

Does its name make it not bread?

Longland grass is wheat. Its not called wheat, its called longland grass, but its still wheat. Its the same thing. Similarly with all of the other above ground crops. They're based on real life crops.

OT: It would be nice if they got renamed to their real world counterparts. If only for confused newbies sake.

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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2010, 11:12:13 am »

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What's in a name? That which we call a rat weed
By any other name would smell as sweet.
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Retain that giant hammer which he owes
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2010, 04:11:22 pm »

I think it could be good bread would be both a food able to be eaten raw or cooked further as an ingredient for a roast or stew.
The same way you can cook the milk or make it into cheese then cook the cheese if you wish.

Already in game. Check the kitchen section of the stocks screen. You can enable or disable various things for cooking or brewing.
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2010, 04:56:07 pm »

Does its name make it not bread?

Yes.
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2010, 04:27:10 am »

Isn't a biscuit a kind of bread?
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2010, 07:28:26 am »

I think it could be good bread would be both a food able to be eaten raw or cooked further as an ingredient for a roast or stew.
The same way you can cook the milk or make it into cheese then cook the cheese if you wish.

Already in game. Check the kitchen section of the stocks screen. You can enable or disable various things for cooking or brewing.

That isn't what I meant, I was saying bread would be both a meal and an ingredient. While flour wouldn't able to be cooked.
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Re: Bread and Bakeries
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2010, 08:24:05 am »

That isn't what I meant, I was saying bread would be both a meal and an ingredient. While flour wouldn't able to be cooked.

Uh, why not?

I can use floor to make bread ... but also to make a cake. Or use it as part of a recipe to cook a sauce. Or make crêpes with it, and fill that with some other stuff (jam, meat, vegetables, ...). Or I could make polenta out of some of it, or noodles, or even a pudding.

In general though, cooking could use some flexibility. I'd love to be able to "design" recipes in the raws, and have the game take care of nutritional values and their effect on the Dwarves automatically. :)
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