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Forumsdwarf

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"Frozen Elsewhere" Frozen Nowhere
« on: March 18, 2008, 09:08:00 pm »

I have 3 wheels in a channeled-out brook that freezes every winter.

I have a "bus" that links the wheels to a single axle, and a switchable gear atop that axle.

When the channeled-out brook freezes the system freezes.  The 3 wheels all say "Frozen Here" and everything else shows "Frozen Elsewhere".  Good so far.

When I switch off the main bus, though, 2 really weird things happen: first, the part of the system disconnected from the main bus stays on "Frozen Elsewhere".  Every component.  Second, the 3 "frozen" wheels start turning and generating power -- on ice!

If I disconnect at the next gearbox up the "Frozen Elsewhere" section stays in the middle and the wind farm spins up the rest of the system.

I have enough power from my wind farm to power everything with power to spare, so power deficit isn't an issue.

Here is a rough diagram of my power system:

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***
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*--%--*--*-(M)
1  %  2  o


The "%%" is an underground pump to increase water flow to my fort.  (I use a lot of water.)  It is well away from outdoors and never comes into contact with ice.

Point 1 is the Main Bus.  It is switchable.
Point 2 is the Outdoor Systems Switch.
"o" is a down axle providing power to the fort.
"(M)" is the windmill farm.

If the wheels freeze and I disengage the Main Bus (1), everything else stays frozen and the wheels start turning in the ice.
If I disengage the Outdoor Systems Switch (2), everything after it turns freely but everything between points 1 and 2 stay "Frozen Elsewhere".

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Re: "Frozen Elsewhere" Frozen Nowhere
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2008, 06:11:00 pm »

I have a sort of similar problem that just cropped up. (Playing on 38c.) No watermills - those being the strangest part of the OP's complaint - but I did have just one gear assembly, suspended over ice, that froze. I shrugged and removed it.

The entire pumping complex attached to the gear assembly remained frozen - "frozen elsewhere" on every component, despite the removal of the one frozen piece.

Very, very strange.

Haven't tried removing more intervening pieces yet; may try that next.

EDIT: Built another mechanism and the system unfroze.

Bizarre.

[ March 21, 2008: Message edited by: Cavalcadeofcats ]

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Re: "Frozen Elsewhere" Frozen Nowhere
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2008, 08:05:00 pm »

The stuck-in-frozen-elsewhere state is Bug 392.  I'll fold the rest of the report into that.
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Re: "Frozen Elsewhere" Frozen Nowhere
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2023, 01:26:52 pm »

...i have this. in 47
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Re: "Frozen Elsewhere" Frozen Nowhere
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2023, 02:30:33 pm »

........ and now all water is liquid but everything is still "frozen elsewhere"
how can this be explained?
« Last Edit: January 04, 2023, 04:40:17 pm by andreasng »
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Re: "Frozen Elsewhere" Frozen Nowhere
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2023, 05:30:32 pm »

You are talking at a 14 year old thread. No-one's here any more (though they for some reason refuse to shut the page - maybe they find this kind of thing funny).
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