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[Inari]

So I'm irked no end by the fact that partial skeletons from sentient races no longer rot down to bones.

Is it possible to butcher partial skeletons from non-sentients?  If so, is it possible to mod dwarves so that they find butchering sentients (or at least their skeletons) ethically acceptable?  I want my goblin totems!

I'm playing mostly vanilla 0.31.18, and have done very little modding, so it'd be great if someone could hold my hand here.

[Inari]

Oh, and if said mod is possible, is it possible to apply it without world regeneration?

[Sutremaine]

No, you'd need a regen.

Change everything in the dwarven ethics file to Acceptable, and if you can embark with sentient meat, then return the tags to their defaults one by one until the embark options return to normal. This will apply to worldgen as well, so you'll end up with dwarves wearing batman leather clothes and such and having a taste for human meat.

Ah, never mind, can't test the embark. I do note the presence of gremlin meat though. Well, time for a test...

[Grimlocke]

That works, I use it on my recent fortresses. The specific tags you need are:

   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:ACCEPTABLE]

I think using this: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=67059.0 might let you change ethics without needing to generate a new world.

Do note that with this you will have lots of cluttered butcher shops and butchers taking half a season to take apart 2 year old goblin bits. Also *kobold spleen roast*.

[Inari]

As far as I've been able to determine, World Tinker allows you to add tags to existing worlds, but not to modify them, which I assume is what I'm trying to do.

But thanks, Grimlocke, for pointing me at it, it's a neat tool, and for giving me the necessary tag changes.  Good for future reference, at least.

One last question:  if I do modify dwarven ethics in future worlds, will the other races hate me for it?  Or do I need to change their ethics as well?

[D_E]

It will make wars somewhat more common, but if you aren't currently at war then shouldn't care.  I don't know what will happen if you try to offer a caravan meat/etc from sentient creatures.  They may react like elves do when offered wood, but I suspect that part hasn't been implemented yet.

[Grimlocke]

You can shamelessly trade elves roasts and crafts made of Elf. Makes sense to a certain extend, after all how would they be able to tell?

As for world tinker, I havnt actualy used that for a whole lot but I can confirm you can also remove existing tags as I cage trapped and tamed titan that way.

[Inari]

Okay, I'll see if the good folks at the World Tinker thread can tell me how to do it, since my own attempts have sadly failed.

As another approach, there isn't any way to speed up the rotting process? Some people seem to think that rotting down to bones just takes a massively long time, rather than being outright impossible.

[Inari]

Oh, and can partial skeletons be butchered, or just fresh corpses?  (I guess I ought to ask this on the Questions forum, but it's pertinent.)

[Sphalerite]

Oh, and can partial skeletons be butchered, or just fresh corpses?  (I guess I ought to ask this on the Questions forum, but it's pertinent.)

Partial skeletons can be butchered into a pile of bones, given two conditions.  First, the creature has to be one you could butcher in the first place.  Second, the partial skeleton has to be large enough to yield at least one unit of bone when butchered - otherwise the butcher won't touch it.

[Grimlocke]

They butcher anything that doesnt have 'rotten' in it. So if they are late butchering a fresh corpse, they leave it untill its done spreading purple clouds and then butcher it into some bones, hair and other unrottable stuff.

[Musashi]

You can shamelessly trade elves roasts and crafts made of Elf. Makes sense to a certain extend, after all how would they be able to tell?.

Did you know that elves practice cannibalism? So, yeah. They could tell. But I wonder if they care. 

[Zaerosz]

Note that while the EAT_SAPIENT tags above will allow eating of intelligent creatures, you may not be able to use their bones or make leather from their skn without changing the MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT_ ethics to ACCEPTABLE as well.

[Grimlocke]

I dont think other workshops than the butchers actualy check for the trophy ethics, at least in 40d they didnt. There you could on rare occasions get your hands on some elf leather. Someone made a point of decorating it with every single type of gem.

It does regulate whether or not the worldgen dwarves will wear all sorts of wacky dwarf leather trophies.

[assimilateur]

What about bone bolts? In .28 you could make those out of humanoids with the default tags, in .31 I don't know yet. Any info before I generate a new world?

EDIT: I just realized that you wouldn't get their bones without butchering them first. Bummer.