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Author Topic: On the farming of Sea Serpents  (Read 94461 times)

ohgoditburns

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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #105 on: February 17, 2011, 02:23:18 pm »

Getting the serpents up and running? seeing as they don't have elgs, it may be quite difficults. :P

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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #106 on: February 17, 2011, 02:40:47 pm »

Actually, it may be a while before I upgrade to a new version of DF.  I'm having trouble even getting 31.19 to generate a world without crashing.  I may wait till some of the bugs and issues have been cleaned up in 31.20 or later till I start a new fortress.
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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #107 on: February 17, 2011, 04:00:25 pm »

Just read through this entire topic. Wow. You are an example to dwarfdom.
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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #108 on: February 17, 2011, 04:18:24 pm »

Op is a dwarf amongst mere goblins.
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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #109 on: March 01, 2011, 09:01:28 pm »

I have done some preliminary testing in the current version (31.19).

A captured untame female sea serpent released into a water-filled chamber full of nest boxes shows no interest in them.  Even when forced to move and stay on top of a nest box, she does not claim it or lay an egg.

I suspect that the egg-laying behavior doesn't work underwater, probably due to underwater nest boxes being unusable due to being underwater.  Which means that until this is fixed, sea serpents can't breed.

I'll try capturing a male sea serpent, but I doubt it'll make any difference.  Egg-laying creatures need a usable nest box, and underwater nest boxes aren't usable.
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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #110 on: March 01, 2011, 09:21:46 pm »

What if you temporarily drain the water? Will the air-drowning serpent claim the nest and lay her eggs, giving you just enough time to refill her tank before she dies?
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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #111 on: March 01, 2011, 09:34:52 pm »

What if you temporarily drain the water? Will the air-drowning serpent claim the nest and lay her eggs, giving you just enough time to refill her tank before she dies?
Doesn't seem to work.  I just tried it, had her directly on a nest box, drained the water till it was at 1/7 and she was drowning, then refilled it.  No claimed nest box, no sea serpent eggs.
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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #112 on: March 01, 2011, 09:36:11 pm »

What if you temporarily drain the water? Will the air-drowning serpent claim the nest and lay her eggs, giving you just enough time to refill her tank before she dies?
Doesn't seem to work.  I just tried it, had her directly on a nest box, drained the water till it was at 1/7 and she was drowning, then refilled it.  No claimed nest box, no sea serpent eggs.
If the water is what's causing the problem, you'd probably have to drain it to 0/7 to get results, but by that point the serpent would probably be dead.
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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #113 on: March 01, 2011, 10:09:39 pm »

I think at that point, the "Drowning" status would override the "Claim Nest" action, and you'd just have a floundering serpent.  That's a shame, I wanted mermaid egg farms too!

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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #114 on: March 01, 2011, 10:20:50 pm »

Set them to amphibious I guess? Dunno if it'd do anything but might be worth a try, if anything you can still drain it and see if they'll lay some eggs when they aren't drowning.
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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #115 on: March 01, 2011, 10:21:46 pm »

Then you'll have serpents rush up and attack your woodcutter and shit!  Which is fun in its own right, for sure.

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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #116 on: March 01, 2011, 10:38:10 pm »

Then you'll have serpents rush up and attack your woodcutter and shit!  Which is fun in its own right, for sure.
Look man, you know it and I know it, the woodcutters are screwed no matter what happens. With Amphibious Sea Serpents, at the very least their horrible, painful deaths can amuse us.


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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #117 on: March 01, 2011, 11:42:48 pm »

....I think Dwarf Fortress may be putting us all into the mindset of being a Greek God.

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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #118 on: June 10, 2011, 08:04:09 pm »

Words simply cannot describe the dwarfyness of this all. Hence:

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Re: On the farming of Sea Serpents
« Reply #119 on: June 13, 2011, 06:04:26 am »

This is the BEST THING.
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