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Author Topic: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Game Over, nobody wins >:I  (Read 88013 times)

Pandarsenic

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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #540 on: March 21, 2011, 09:51:05 pm »

Votecount incoming. Also, I suck at ordering things so I just DID shower. Anyway.
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Votes:
Darvi - 1 - Jokerman-EXE
Leafsnail - 0
Ottofar - 1 - Org
Argembarger - 0
Zrk2 - 3 - Ottofar Jim_Groovester Leafsnail
lordnincompoop - 0
Jim Groovester - 0
Jack A T - 0
Org - 0
Jokerman-EXE - 3 - Mr.Person IronyOwl Darvi
Toaster - 0
IronyOwl - 0
NativeForeigner - 0
Mr.Person - 3 - lordnincompoop Zrk2 Jack_A_T

This day is governed by the Laws:
Conditional: A Grave Mis-Stake
State: Xanatos Goals

Day ends Monday at 11 PM Pacific, barring extensions.
At 13 players alive, hammers require 7 votes, Extensions require 3 votes, and Shortens require 5.

2 Extension votes heard: Ottofar, Jokerman-EXE
« Last Edit: March 21, 2011, 10:36:17 pm by Pandarsenic »
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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #542 on: March 21, 2011, 10:09:43 pm »

NativeForeigner, you haven't voted yet. Who are you going to?

To avoid a no lynch I'll unvote Zrk2 and vote Mr.Person.
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You know, it's fucking uncanny how many times people scream that Jim is out to get them and has rallied the town to destroy them, like he's the head of some damn conspiracy theory or something.  I've learned to recognize this as something I call "The Jimbot Fallacy".

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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #543 on: March 21, 2011, 10:14:21 pm »

Pandar: You seem to be counting Darvi as voting for both Ottofar and Jokerman.
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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #544 on: March 21, 2011, 10:36:24 pm »

Fixed.
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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #545 on: March 21, 2011, 10:52:46 pm »

1. If scum were involved in the bandwagon, then I didn't want them to think it was unnoticed. If they weren't, I didn't want them thinking they could slip in on it. If it was only town and they didn't realize, then I wanted to point it out. I still don't see how that's actually scummy at all, so if you could explain that I would be grateful.
There's no apparent way it leads to catching scum. Letting scum know they can't hop on the bandwagon without being noticed, in fact, sounds like the opposite of that, because you're giving them advance warning.

Perhaps more importantly, you hardly did anything with it. You didn't make any effort to find out if some of bandwagon was scum, for instance, you just pointed at it and then left.

2. I was answering someone's (don't recall who) question about how I was apparently "waiting for people's opinions" before voting Mr.Person, and then the post you quoted was my explanation. I didn't think he was scummy until after, but I felt like conversing with him and pointing out a few things while I was there would stimulate conversation. Which uh, doesn't seem to be working too hot. I feel like I'm only talking to the same three people.  >:(
Right, but you said Person's semi-defense of the bandwagon would draw out scum. I'm curious how exactly you thought that would work.

Also, you're only talking to the same three people because you're only talking to the three people who jumped on you.

3. So you're going to say that I'm still being passive and not scumhunting, despite the fact that I've leveled accusations against my list of suspicions while others (Darvi) have simply voted me without reasons? Because I'm pretty sure that's being hypocritical. I also explained why the attacks on me were bullshit, and saying "Oh you were freaking out" is retarded because I've explained multiple times why their votes were bullshit and cause for alarm.
Your "list of suspicions" is the list of people attacking you, full stop. Doing nothing but OMGUSing is not really scumhunting.

As for Darvi, the word you're looking for is "inconsistent." It's only hypocritical if I'm doing it.

In any case, Darvi had a semi-decent excuse, so the lurking didn't bother me. You're correct that he hasn't exactly been a star player, but that's not especially unusual this game.

As for the attacks, no. You've said "That's not scummy, how is that scummy?" to most of them, but you haven't really provided good reasons for your wanton passiveness and OMGUSing. Case in point, "Their attacks are bullshit" is not a cause for alarm, at least for a townie.

4. Lead by example? I think I have the most posts over the last three days, and you've been gone (granted it was the weekend, but still). So explain what that's supposed to mean.
Really? Please provide who your suspects were prior to the bandwagon incident; if you've had the most posts (by which I assume you mean content), you should have no trouble pointing to the fruits of said labor.

In any case, you're complaining about there not being enough conversation, but doing nothing to start any. You're responding to attacks against you, yes, but you're not starting anything new, investigating anything unbidden, or otherwise making the game livelier; you're simply stating that you'd like it to be.


NativeForeigner, you haven't voted yet. Who are you going to?

To avoid a no lynch I'll unvote Zrk2 and vote Mr.Person.
Why do you prefer Person to Zrk2? What's wrong with a Joker lynch?
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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #546 on: March 21, 2011, 10:59:34 pm »

Allow me to refer you to my list of suspects:

Mr.Person, Zrk2, Darvi.

Note Jokerman-EXE's absence from this list.
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You know, it's fucking uncanny how many times people scream that Jim is out to get them and has rallied the town to destroy them, like he's the head of some damn conspiracy theory or something.  I've learned to recognize this as something I call "The Jimbot Fallacy".

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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #547 on: March 21, 2011, 11:00:03 pm »

Extension.

I hate to do this, but Person's probably third on my preferred list, and I do think there's room for a bit more discussion.

If nothing else, we can shorten as soon as we've decided otherwise.
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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #548 on: March 21, 2011, 11:01:47 pm »

Allow me to refer you to my list of suspects:

Mr.Person, Zrk2, Darvi.

Note Jokerman-EXE's absence from this list.

Pardon me, but wasn't Irony asking why you have these opinions, not what your opinions are?
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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #549 on: March 21, 2011, 11:03:37 pm »

Allow me to refer you to my list of suspects:

Mr.Person, Zrk2, Darvi.

Note Jokerman-EXE's absence from this list.
I see. What do you make of the incident surrounding him, then?

Also, why is Person higher than Zrk2? How does Darvi compare?


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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #550 on: March 21, 2011, 11:06:56 pm »

Votes:
Darvi - 1 - Jokerman-EXE
Leafsnail - 0
Ottofar - 1 - Org
Argembarger - 0
Zrk2 - 2 - Ottofar Leafsnail
lordnincompoop - 0
Jim Groovester - 0
Jack A T - 0
Org - 0
Jokerman-EXE - 3 - Mr.Person IronyOwl Darvi
Toaster - 0
IronyOwl - 0
NativeForeigner - 0
Mr.Person - 4 - lordnincompoop Zrk2 Jack_A_T Jim_Groovester

This day is governed by the Laws:
Conditional: A Grave Mis-Stake
State: Xanatos Goals

Day ends Wednesday at 11 PM Pacific, barring further extensions.
At 13 players alive, hammers require 7 votes, Extensions require 3 votes, and Shortens require 5.

3 votes for extension. Day extended to 11 PM Pacific on Wednesday.

IronyOwl: Cute. D:< But I moved it to 11 to give people time.
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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #551 on: March 21, 2011, 11:08:34 pm »

There was a tie and I'm doing it to avoid a no lynch.

This is what I just said. I think Zrk2 is scummier than Mr.Person but they're both scum to me.

Pardon me, but wasn't Irony asking why you have these opinions, not what your opinions are?

You're pardoned.

I see. What do you make of the incident surrounding him, then?

I think the only thing he's guilty of is flipping the fuck out. Everything he's said I pretty much agree with.

Now that the extension's gone through I don't need to make sure a no lynch doesn't happen.

Unvote Mr.Person, vote Zrk2.
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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #552 on: March 22, 2011, 12:09:40 am »

Jim: I haven't voted yet because things have recently gotten complicated. I've taken to rereading to make my decision. I couldn't really think of anything productive or original to ask.

Mr. Person.

I had a hard time deciding between the three, but Mr. Person seems scummier than Jokerman who seems scummier than Zrk2.

I don't really feel like doing a complete rehash of the case against Person because it'll just be redundant. So I'll just tell you what made up my mind.

While Jokerman was indeed being passive, Mr. Person forgetting about Jim caught my attention more than Joker's passiveness did. Furthermore, when Zrk2 didn't vote Jokerman, which would have probably gotten Joker lynched, it made me reconsider his scumminess (though his recent posts are confusing at best). So basically, Person's "forgetfulness" and Zrk2 not taking the expected scum path make Person the most likely to be scum.
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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #553 on: March 22, 2011, 09:48:09 am »

Pandar, in case of a tie, will a) no one or b) all the people tied be lynched?

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Re: Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure: Day 2, 13/15, 1 replace?
« Reply #554 on: March 22, 2011, 04:20:30 pm »

NativeForeigner, you haven't voted yet. Who are you going to?

To avoid a no lynch I'll unvote Zrk2 and vote Mr.Person.
There was a tie and I'm doing it to avoid a no lynch.

This is what I just said. I think Zrk2 is scummier than Mr.Person but they're both scum to me.

Pardon me, but wasn't Irony asking why you have these opinions, not what your opinions are?

You're pardoned.

I see. What do you make of the incident surrounding him, then?

I think the only thing he's guilty of is flipping the fuck out. Everything he's said I pretty much agree with.

Now that the extension's gone through I don't need to make sure a no lynch doesn't happen.

Unvote Mr.Person, vote Zrk2.

Jim, why are you throwing your vote around with only the weakest of pretexts, this carelessness with your vote says that you do not care about it, indicating that you are scum.
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