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[Trolldefender99]

Humble has Crusader Kings 2 plus all of the expansions. It's a huge saving if starting from scratch, or even if you just need a couple of the more expensive expansions.

Wow, look at all those "mixed" reviews at the $15 level. :/

I don't own half the expansions and not sure I care enough to complete the set.

Personally wasn't much a fan of CK2 compared to paradox other historical strategy games.

Victoria 2 got 235 hours so far, and I like it a lot.

EU4 I got 987 hours (99% of that is because of MEIOU mod though) and is my 2nd most played game on steam. Its probably my favorite overall.

Imperator Rome I'm liking a lot despite negative reviews (though I'm on beta patch), and already have 61 hours played and haven't even owned it for 2 weeks

Where as CK2 I only have 86 hours out of and haven't touched it in a long time, nor do I want to or plan to. A lot of people seem to like it, and I DID enjoy my time out of it (till the last 5 hours or so anyway)...but its also the only paradox game I found (for me personally) that runs out of things to do and fast. War is boring and too easy, can't play tall, the RP aspects are better than imperator so it has that going with it (hope they improve that in imperator)...but the thing is...there isn't really much to do except play it as a sims game. Some like that, but not me. By the end of my time with it, I was literally falling asleep as I was playing it lol. Not a good sign for a game.

I think EU4/Vic 2 and hopefully imperator improves more, but I think those 3 are a ton better.

Plus its rare to play a strategy game where you can literally play tall and not forced into expanding into a huge empire and conquering 24/7. EU4/Vic 2 allows you to play relatively peaceful, which again is super rare in a strategy game and my favorite things about them.

[heydude6]

I loved CKII as well for the time I played it, but once I conquered enough territory to be crowned emperor I lost interest. There was still more I could do (such as starting a new play through as a different nation and culture), but by that point in my life my priorities shifted. There is simply too much waiting in the game for me to justify putting my limited time into it. A lot of the gameplay boils down to wait for chancellor to fabricate that claim, or wait for your assassination plot to finally kill that bastard.

The fun comes from figuring out the game’s systems and using that knowledge to plan out the best assasination/marriage schemes possible so you can take land and grow your realm. The game truly makes you feel like a Machiavellian bastard and I would recommend it for that experience alone! You will turn into a sociopath, and as a result you will better understand why the sociopaths that run this world make the decisions they do.

Spoiler: In case you decide not to play, but are curious (click to show/hide)

To summarize, it basically consists of three elements: degrees of separation,  massive payoffs, and fear of falling behind. So next time you wonder why Nestle gave african mothers free baby formula and then started charging for it after they couldn’t produce natural breastmilk anymore, just remember that it’s very difficult for a rich CEO living in Switzerland to care about what happens to some poor family who lives on another continent who he knows nothing about. With the potential to make so much money, and with the fear of Kraft foods stealing their position as number 1 food conglomerate, the immoral choice becomes the obvious one.

The game’s strategy is surprisingly engaging as well. Wrenches will reliably be thrown into your plans and you will be scrambling to come up with new ones to deal with the complications. Maybe you forgot a small detail about the complicated succession law. Maybe your assassination attempt failed and you were revealed as the mastermind, maybe you develop a sickness or get assassinated yourself. The point I’m trying to make is that the game is constantly keeping you on your toes.

In my opinion, this and the role-playing options are the best parts of the game. War is deeper than it initially seems, but it ain’t no Starcraft. The biggest potential turnoff is probably what Trolldefender99 said: you can’t build tall. And by that, he means that you can’t do much with the land once you conquer it. You can definitely build stuff on it, but it’s vastly less deep and satisfying as developing land in something like say Civilization or Endless legend. You also can’t do much in the way of ruling land either. The laws you can pass as king can be divided in essentially 2 categories “Ability to conquer land vs ability to maintain land” or “What specific resources do you want to extract from your land?”. I am oversimplifying, but the point is that you can’t roleplay as good King Arthur. You can’t institute welfare or increase your population’s literacy. Those thing are outside the scope of the game. The game is fundamentally about conquest via sword, dagger, or pen and if that doesn’t appeal to you then you shouldn’t buy it.

[AlStar]

The game is fundamentally about conquest via sword, dagger, or pen and if that doesn’t appeal to you then you shouldn’t buy it.

That said, $1 gets you the base game and pretty much all the "necessary" DLCs (Old Gods, Republic, Sunset Invasion, Legacy of Rome, and Sword of Islam) - I'd say that's a deal if you're at least even somewhat interested in the game.

[heydude6]

all the "necessary" DLCs

Where the hell is Reaper's Due and Way of Life in that list?

EDIT: Okay, I checked it out now. It's in the higher tiers

[scriver]

Spoiler: In case you decide not to play, but are curious (click to show/hide)

To summarize, it basically consists of three elements: degrees of separation,  massive payoffs, and fear of falling behind. So next time you wonder why Nestle gave african mothers free baby formula and then started charging for it after they couldn’t produce natural breastmilk anymore, just remember that it’s very difficult for a rich CEO living in Sweden to care about what happens to some poor family who lives on another continent who he knows nothing about. With the potential to make so much money, and with the fear of Kraft foods stealing their position as number 1 food conglomerate, the immoral choice becomes the obvious one.

Nestle isn't Swedish, dude

[heydude6]

Did some googling and changed it to Switzerland. I was pretty close though.

[umiman]

I was pretty close though.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[JimboM12]

close relative to, say, Australia

on topic tho, gmg is still going with its summer sale which is wrapping up soon. one of the big titles is no man's sky which is actually not bad now that its been patched a ton.

https://www.greenmangaming.com/

[Trolldefender99]

SPORE is on a decent looking sale on Steam.

Is it any good? Coming as someone who has never played it, and only seen a few videos? My only worry is one of my friends said it gets boring really quick once get to space stage, and me and him have pretty similar tastes in games.

[scriver]

close relative to, say, Australia

What? Sweden is far north of Switzerland, Australia is right there on her eastern border

[Frumple]

close relative to, say, Australia

What? Sweden is far north of Switzerland, Australia is right there on her eastern border

Nnnnooooo. Not Australia. Australia isn't.

C'mon scrive, yer not american that level of geography fail isn't allowed

[scriver]

I'm doing the joke, Frumple, knock before you enter

[Trolldefender99]

SPORE is on a decent looking sale on Steam.

Is it any good? Coming as someone who has never played it, and only seen a few videos? My only worry is one of my friends said it gets boring really quick once get to space stage, and me and him have pretty similar tastes in games.

I had to return it. It crashes too much on windows 10, which seems to be a common issue with windows 10 and spore. Though some people with windows 10 it plays fine, but it seems still rather common issue.

Weird it has so many issues with windows 10. I've played games from the 1990s without any issue on windows 10. Morrowind is super old and plays fine on windows 10 as well. In any case, buyer beware I guess.

[Ulfarr]

Morrowind is super old

Morrowind is super old
Morrowind is super old
Morrowind is super old
Morrowind is super old

 
*snif* I'm sorry I couldn't help it

[heydude6]

Tohou 8 used to have problems on windows 10, but one day it magically fixed itself. I don't know how, but it's fun to be able to die to Marissa's laser beams again.