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Girlinhat

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Re: Frequency
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2011, 04:50:11 pm »

We can answer this, though.  Rip out all creatures, and allow only horses (or whatever) with a population of 1 and frequency of 100.  If you kill that one, and another comes next year, then you know how it works.

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Re: Frequency
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2011, 05:19:36 pm »

While doing research in preparation for my Sea Serpent breeding fortress, I created a world in which every creature had a population size of 1 and cluster size of one.  I went into legends mode and exported the site populations.  I then embarked with seven hunters, killed every creature that entered the map till none more did, then abandoned.  Went into legends mode and generated a new set of site populations.  Comparing these revealed that yes, the killed creatures were permanently removed from the world population, and experiments over multiple years showed that once a biome was depleted of a population of creatures none more spawned.  Other people who have tried to support fortresses with only hunting have also determined that wildlife populations can eventually become permanently depleted.
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Re: Frequency
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2011, 06:05:29 pm »

Good to know, then I will need some adjustments for the next version. And the wiki needs correction :).
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Re: Frequency
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2011, 07:16:54 pm »

Toady needs to fix that :P

Then again even if he let them breed the number of creatures you can kill in fortress mode could vastly outstrip a realistic population growth model... Barring maybe rabbits...
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Re: Frequency
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2011, 09:55:13 pm »

That's because there's always wildlife on the map.  There's rarely a moment that the map is empty of wild critters.  If animals came less frequently as their population dropped, say 1 cluster per year, then it would resemble actual animal scarcity and allow those rare wanderers to breed away from the fort.

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Re: Frequency
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2011, 12:53:24 am »

Toady needs to fix that :P

Then again even if he let them breed the number of creatures you can kill in fortress mode could vastly outstrip a realistic population growth model... Barring maybe rabbits...
No, users can edit wiki just fine :).
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