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[adwarf]

Squire, page, wanderer/vagabond, student, really, it depends on what kind of classes you want and what purpose they will serve.

I like the student one very much I might make one of its archtypes one of the only classes that can right Spellbooks, Scrolls, and Tomes. Thanks for all of the ideas guys these will greatly expand the available starting classes, archtypes, and specialty classes.

[adwarf]

Well here are the current starting Classes some of them have descriptions, but others don't, but they will soon, so just ignore that.

Spoiler: Classes (click to show/hide)

Pick Pocket - You learned to be a simple thief at a young age learning to steal, flee from the guards, and hide from the suspicious looks of possible targets, but this way of life left little time for studying, school, and other such trivial means making you far less intelligent than you would have if you hadn't been fending for yourself on the streets.
Starting Status:
HP - 20/20
Inventory Slots - 4/8
MP - 0/0
SP - 0/0
Speed - 2
Starting Gear:
Rusty Dagger (D-1, AS-4, S-1, AP-0)
Black Cloak (PD-0, MD-0, SD-0, Stealth +1)
Worn Peasent Rags (PD-0, MD-0, SD-0)
Bags of Coins (58 C, 2 S)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
-2 to Willpower, Intelligence, Charisma, and Spirituality
+2 to Agility, Speed, and Luck

Magi Trainee - You learned the ways of magic from your master whether he be an old hermit in a secluded hut, or great magi in a Magician's School, but your training is incomplete, and all your magic realies completely on rituals, and spellbooks. You are severly weak physically, because of this, but you can use any form of magic as long as you have a book containign the spell, the ritual materials, or have actually managed to imprint a spell for your use.
Starting Status:
HP - 10/10
Inventory Slots - 3/5
MP - 30/30
SP - 0/0
Speed - 1
Starting Gear:
Wooden Staff (D-2, AS-1, S-1, AP-0)
Basic Spellbook (Contains Basic Spells (Level 1 Spells))
Ritual Ingredients (Contains enough stuff for 6 Level 1 Rituals, 6/6)
Magi Robes (PD-0, MD-1, SD-0)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
+2 to Willpower, and Intelligence
-2 to Agility, Strength, Endurance, Spirituality
Can only used Magic from Spellbooks, Scrolls, Grimores, Tomes, and Imprinted Spells

Hunter - You hunted, foraged, and trapped to make a living to keep you, your family, or loved one afloat, and have thus learned the fine arts of Marksmanship, and Trapping. These skills increased your finese, and speed, but have harmed your studying time.
Starting Status:
HP - 15/15
Inventory Slots - 3/7
MP - 0/0
SP - 0/0
Speed - 2
Starting Gear:
Wooden Hunting Bow (D-3, AS-1, S-2, AP-1)
Quiver of Arrows (50/50 Arrows, DM-0, AM-0)
Leather Jerkin (PD-1, MD-0, SD-0)
Bag of Dried Meat Strips (12/12, Heal 5 HP per Strip)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
+2 to Agility, and Speed
-2 to Willpower, Intelligence, Endurance
+1 to Damage with Bow Weapons

Student - Most of your life has been devoted to studying, writing, and learning all you can from the numerous books, and teachers that you have read, and studied under. Your time studying has made you smarter, but your physical abilites have been weakened due to little action.
Starting Status:
HP - 10/10
Inventory Slots - 4/6
MP - 0/0
SP - 0/0
Speed - 1
Starting Gear:
Empty Book (Costs 15 Ink Units)
Roll of Parchment (5/5, Costs 5 Ink Units Each)
Quill, and Ink Well (25/25)
Scholar Robes (PD-0, MD-0, SD-0)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
-2 to Strength, Endurance, Agility, Speed, Spiritulality
+3 to Intelligence, Willpower
Can Craft Level 1 Scrolls, and Spellbooks with sufficent supplies, and records

Monk
Starting Status:
HP - 20/20
Inventory Slots 3/8
MP - 0/0
SP - 10/10
Speed - 2
Starting Gear:
Fists (D-1, AS-5, S-0, AP-0)
Monk Ropes (PD-0, MD-0, SD-1)
Bag of Coins (89 C, 4 S)
Scroll of (?)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
+1 to Strength, Endurance, Agility, Speed, Spirituality
-2 to Luck, Charisma
+2 to Unarmed Damage

(?) = The God you Choose in your character Sheet

Herbalist
Starting Status:
HP - 10/10
Inventory Slots 3/6
MP - 0/0
SP - 0/0
Speed - 1
Starting Gear:
Peasent Rags (PD-0, MD-0, SD-0)
Mortar, and Pestle (Used to Craft Herbal Concoctions)
Bag of Random Herbs (20/20)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
-2 to Endurance, Strength
-1 to Agility, Speed
+2 to Willpower, Intelligence, Charisma
Can Craft Herbal Concoctions

Smith
Starting Status:
HP - 8/8
Inventory Slots 2/8
MP - 0/0
SP - 0/0
Speed - 1
Starting Gear:
Blacksmithing Tools
Deed to (?)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
-2 to Intelligence, Willpower, Agility
+2 to Strength, Endurance
+1 to Smithing
Can Smith Weapons, and Armor at your Smithy

(?) = Name your Smithy, and that will go their (Your Smithy also has a house on the grounds containing food, and smithing materials as well as a safe place to sleep which heals your hp)

Cravan Trader
Starting Status:
HP - 10/10
Inventory Slots 3/6
MP - 0/0
SP - 0/0
Speed - 1
Starting Gear:
Trader Robes (PD-0, MD-0, SD-0, +1 to Barter, & Speech Rolls)
Caravan Deed
Bag of COins (15 S, 5 G)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
-2 to Strength, Enduarnce, Agility
+2 to Intelligence, Charisma, Luck
+1 to Barter, and Speech Rolls

Guardsmen Trainee
Starting Status:
HP - 25/25
Inventory Slots 5/10
MP - 0/0
SP - 0/0
Speed - 2
Starting Gear:
Wooden Spear (D-1, AS-3, S-3, AP-1)
Wooden Round Shield (BC-25%, SC-10%)
Worn Leather Armor (PD-3, MD-0, SD-0)
Bag of Dried Meats (6/6, Heal 15 HP per Piece)
Wineskin full of Water (12/12, Heals 3 Hp for 5 Turns)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
+2 to Strength, Endurance, Agility, Speed
-4 to Intelligence, Willpower
+2 to Physical Damage with Spears, or Swords

Lesser-Priest
Starting Status:
HP - 10/10
Inventory Slots 0/6
MP - 25/25
SP - 25/25
Speed - 1
Starting Gear:
Wooden Staff (D-3, AS-1, S-1, AP-0)
Priest Robes (PD-0, MD-1, SD-2)
1st Pillar, Book of Prayers (Allows use of Cetain Level 1 Prayers)
Scroll of (?)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
+2 to Intelligence, Charimsa, Luck, Willpower, Spirtuality
-3 to Agility, Speed, Endurance
-1 to Strength
Can use Prayers if a Prayer Book for that Pillar (Level) is owned

(?)= Random Spell

Perfomer
Starting Status:
HP - 10/10
Inventory Slots 0/8
MP - 0/0
SP - 0/0
Speed - 2
Starting Gear:
Travelling Performers Clothes (PD-0, MD-0, SD-0)
Small Knife (D-1, AS-5, S-0, AP-0)
Bag of Coins (45 C, 5 S)
Bag of Tricks (15/15, Required for the Use of Tricks, and Certain Skills)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
+2 to Speed, Agility, Luck
+1 to Strength, Endurance, Charisma
-3 to Spirituality

Wanderer
Starting Status:
HP - 15/15
Inventory Slots 3/8
MP - 0/0
SP - 0/0
Speed - 2
Starting Gear:
Worn Shortsword (D-2, AS-2, S-3, AP-1)
Worn Peddlar Rags (PD-0, MD-0, SD-0)
Bag of Dried Meat Strips (12/12, Heal 5 HP per Strip)
Starting Bonuses, and Penalties:
+2 to Strength, Endurance, Agility, Speed
-2 to Intelligence, Willpower, Spirituality
+1 to Damage with Swords

EDIT: Added the other three starting classes since I decided to limit the starting classes a bit (I think I removed three, or so from the starting number), and I am now working on  the Titles, and Rank Systems a bit which will soon be done after I add 10-20 Titles, and work out some kinks.

[Person]

I'm testing a revised version of "For Science!" in the RTD testing thread. So, some players would be nice. Main thing I've done is changed to the d8 system.

[adwarf]

Finished all the attributes, and added point gain formulas to make stat calculations, bonuses, and penalties much easier. Here they are.

Spoiler: Attributes (click to show/hide)

Strength This affects how much you can carry around with you at one time, how much physical damage you deal, what weapons you can wield, how well you can use certain crafting tools, etc.

Point Gain Formulas
Inventory Slots: 1 = 1 Point of Strength
Physical Damage Bonus: 1 = 5 Points of Strength
Weapon Weight Ranks: 1 = 10 Points of Strength
Strength Based Crafting Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Strength
Agility Penalty: -1 = 5 Points of Strength
Feats of Strength Bonuses: 1 = 5 Points of Strength
Attack Speed Penalties: 1 = 10 Points of Strength

Agility This affects how nimble you are increasing your chances your to dodge attacks, your accuracy, how good you are at crafting requiring swift, and precise work, etc.

Point Gain Formulas
Attack Speed Bonuses: 1 = 5 Points of Agility
Dodge Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Agility
Accuracy Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Agility
Agility Based Crafting Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Agility
Ranged Damage Bonuses: 1 = 15 Points of Agility
Strength Penalties: -1 = 10 Points of Agility
Feats of Agility Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Agility

Speed This is a measure of how fast you can move determening what order you take in the combat order, how easily you can escape from an enemy, and even how fast you can attack.

Point Gain Formulas:
Attack Speed Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Speed
Speed Bonuses: .1 = 1 Point of Speed
Fleeing Bonuses: 1 = 15 Points of Speed
Endurance Penalties: -1 = 10 Points of Speed

Endurance This is a measure of your constitution the higher it is the harder a time the enemy will have trying to kill you. This determines your HP, Defense Bonuses, Resistance to certain things, etc.

Point Gain Formulas:
HP Increase Per Rank: 5 = 10 Point of Endurance
Base HP Bonuses: 5 = 10 Point of Endurance
Poison Resistance Bonuses: 5% = 10 Points of Endurance
Disease Resistance Bonuses: 5% = 10 Points of Endurance
Physical Defense Bonuses: 1 = 15 Points of Endurance
Speed Penalties: -1 = 5 Points of Endurance
Demon Control Bonuses (Used in Magic): 1 = 15 Points of Endurance

Intelligence This is a measure of how smart you are, and the smarter you are the more magical power you will have to use against those you deam to be your opponets. This Determines your MP, Magical Damage Bonuses, and gives bonuses to inventing, and creating rolls among other things.

Point Gain Formulas:
MP Increase Per Rank: 5 = 10 Points of Intelligence
Base MP Bonuses: 5 = 10 Points Intelligence
Magical Damage Bonuses: 1 = 15 Points of Intelligence
Intelligence Based Crafting Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Intelligence
Inventing, and Creating Bonuses: 1 = 15 Points of Intelligence
Spirituality Penalties: -1 = 5 Points of Intelligence
Feats of Intelligence Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Intelligence

Willpower This is a measure of your mental strength, and the stronger it is the better your control over magic, and other things will bbe. This Determines your Magical Defense Bonuses, Control Bonuses, and other numerous things.

Point Gain Formulas:
Magical Defense Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Willpower
Demon Control Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Willpower
Mental Defense Bonuses: 1 = 15 Points of Willpower
Mental Attack Bonuses: 1 = 15 Points of Willpower
Spirituality Penalties: -1 = 5 Points of Willpower

Charisma This is a measure of how charming you appear to other people, and how easily you can convine them to do what you wish, and the higher it is the easier you cna gather companions, or the cheaper you can get that golden great sword. This Determines your Barter, and Speech Bonuses; the cost of items, and the selling price of your goods; the number of Companions you can have; and many other things.

Point Gain Formulas:
Speech Roll Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Charisma
Barter Roll Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Charisma
Buying, and Selling Prices: Hidden
Max Companion Number: 1 = 10 Points of Charisma
Companion Bonuses: 1 = 5 Points of Charisma
Luck Penalties: -1 = 10 Points of Charisma

Luck This is how much of a lucky person you are, and it will have varying effects throughout the game that can help you take advantage of situations.

Point Gain Formulas:
Luck Roll Bonuses: 1 = 15 Points of Luck
Gambling Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Luck
Crictical Chance Bonuses: 1 = 20 Points of Luck
Critical Damage Bonuses: 1 = 20 Points of Luck
Charisma Penalties: -1 = 10 Points of Luck

Spirituality This how connected you are to the Spiritual Plane, and through that the Gods of Gaia, and the higher your connection the stronger the power you can wield from the spiritual plane, the more power a god will gift, and many more things.

Point Gain Formulas:
Spiritual Control Bonuses: 1 = 10 Points of Spirituality
SP Increase Per Rank: 5 = 10 Points of Spirituality
Base SP Bonuses: 5 = 10 Points of Spirituality
Spiritual Power Level: 1 = 15 Points of Spirituality
Intelliegnece Penalties: -1 =  5 Points of Spirituality
Willpower Penalties: -1 = 5 Points of Spirituality

[Dwarmin]

Man, depression week is starting...

I feel so bad for letting my dragon game die. 

I'm trying to get OoTK on track-2 weeks dead at this point-, but my brain is jelly. I literally can't write anything anymore. Anybody got any tips for trying to bring your games back to life?

If anyone wants a post mortem, it's because Adwarf ran off the rails and IMO, I'm not nearly creative or smart enough to run a game with freeforming actions over plot. It literally drained my will to update. But, it was a good first try...

[adwarf]

Man, depression week is starting...

I feel so bad for letting my dragon game die. 

I'm trying to get OoTK on track-2 weeks dead at this point-, but my brain is jelly. I literally can't write anything anymore. Anybody got any tips for trying to bring your games back to life?

If anyone wants a post mortem, it's because Adwarf ran off the rails and IMO, I'm not nearly creative or smart enough to run a game with freeforming actions over plot. It literally drained my will to update. But, it was a good first try...

Sorry if I caused you trouble you could kill me off if it will make your job of updating easier as I don't want you to have trouble of any sort, because of me.

EDIT: I will even type up my own death scene if it would make it easier.

[Dwarmin]

Nah, if I can't keep up I won't punish you for it.

[Tarran]

Man, depression week is starting...

I feel so bad for letting my dragon game die. 

The important thing to remember is that we don't hate you for it. I'm sure we've all let a game die before.

[adwarf]

Nah, if I can't keep up I won't punish you for it.

Personally I figured I would have died when I went to anger that thing in the tombs, and wasn't expecting to live past that.

[IronyOwl]

Man, depression week is starting...

I feel so bad for letting my dragon game die. 

Well, at least you tried, and it was very good while it lasted.

I'm trying to get OoTK on track-2 weeks dead at this point-, but my brain is jelly. I literally can't write anything anymore. Anybody got any tips for trying to bring your games back to life?

Just do it anyway. It probably won't be as bad or hard as you think, and the only way to get your momentum back is to wade through it.

Remember, tumbling down a hill is still moving forward.




In vaguely related news, I'm considering a new RTD. The players are villains, starting off as high-ranking minions of a fairly passive evil overlord, meaning it's mainly just them running around trying to achieve vague goals however they please, in addition hatching their own plots and schemes. They're also in the overlord's employ because it suits them, so if they want to switch teams or go freelance that wouldn't affect much.

The world would mainly be fantasy, but it'd be pretty inconsistent in terms of theme, so there might be comical goomba-like critters in one part of the world (or under one player's command) and mindraping nightmares in/under another. I'm still not sure entirely how that would work, but the default response is to shrug and toss it in.

Players would have skills, which might extend into racial supernatural abilities as well. Skills would either add a bonus to rolls (with more difficult/powerful actions applying a penalty) or just serve as a point of reference, so a powerful wizard's [5] would be different from a novice's. Every time a player rolls a 5 or 6, they get a point of experience in that skill, with higher levels presumably taking longer to level up. Skills could also be combined for hybrid effects, though I'm still pondering how exactly that would work.

Players would also have the ability to gain minions, which would mostly be abstracted out. Minions could be useful both for combat, where they might serve as anything from a damage sponge to disablers, and in noncombat situations where they'd mostly just provide bonuses to rolls or make certain things possible. They could potentially also have offscreen use as well.

Finally, ideally I'd like to shuffle through the waiting list with at least a bit of speed, so I'd like a method of kicking players out while still letting them keep their progress on re-entry. Presumably this would either mean that it's relatively easy to be "defeated" and have to pull out, letting someone else in and then returning later, or maybe whoever did "worst" the last X turns gets the boot with similar effects.

Feedback or suggestions are welcome.

[SeriousConcentrate]

You could send them to the big house. After all, they're evil people, and they ALWAYS break out of jail eventually to resume their plans.

Clarification Edit:

whoever did "worst" the last X turns gets the boot with similar effects.

With this, you could always say the law/superhero/secret organization is tracking the players and whoever does the worst gets caught, sort of deal.

@Dwarmin Edit: Irony is correct about OotK. :3 Regardless, I like your style so if you came up with something else I would take a shot at it. ^^^

[Talarion]

Sounds good. I approve the mention of jail.

[Dave1004]

Someone should make a Minecraft RTD. It should be short and simple. The goal would be to survive for as long as possible...During the day, players can collect resources and build defenses. At night, waves of monsters try and destroy them. 5 turns day, 5 turns night. At day, all current monsters die.

Simple classes such as Miners, Hunters, Warriors, Rangers or Tamers. Every class can build, and specific classes get a +1 to whatever their task is. Warriors get +1 to melee weapons, Rangers +1 to bows/traps, Tamers get +1 to taming Wolves/making Snow Golems, Hunters get a +1 at gathering food, and...Miners get...a +1 to mining resources. There would be only a few resources:

Walls:

Dirt (Very Weak)
Wood (Weak)
Cobblestone (Average)
Bricked Stone* (Strong)
* whatever it's called. Made from Stone, 4 pieces of Stone = 1x Bricked Stone.

Resources: Weapons

Wood: (Very Weak)
Stone (Average)
Iron (Strong)
Arrows (Weak)

Resources: ETC

Porkchops (Healing, average)
Bones (For taming wolves)
Snow balls (For creating Snow Golems)
Flint (For making arrows)
Sticks (For arrows, made from Wood)
Iron Ore (Found in stone, for Iron Weapons)

Miners would be vital, at least one in a six player game. Players could gather Dirt/Wood/Stone, with varying times each. A small 10% chance or so when gathering Stone will result in a piece of Iron, allowing an Iron weapon to be made. Blah blah blah, etc etc etc. Every night there's more and more monsters. An average team would be this:

2 Miners
2 Warriors
1 Hunter
1 Tamer

Wolves and Snow Golems would be vital. Wolves can damage enemies, but they die quickly. Snow Golems can't hurt enemies, but are very good at distracting them.

Anybody willing to make?

[Bdthemag]

Already done, didn't work. Its alot easier to make an RTD last a long time if you have a story, and not just one simple goal.

On another note, I want to run an RTD. Anyone have any ideas for one they'd like to see? I might actually pick up that Bard RTD idea thrown around awhile ago.

[Dave1004]

Really? I ran a search and a google search, found no threads to do with minecraft. I did find some for Terraria though...

So bored :/.