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[Ghills]

Interesting work, I will find diff program for windows just to use this mod.

Try the DF Mod Manager http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=74828.0. It lets you edit, install and remove as many mods as you want.

[Kogut]

Interesting work, I will find diff program for windows just to use this mod.

Try the DF Mod Manager http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=74828.0. It lets you edit, install and remove as many mods as you want.

Thanks!

[NW_Kohaku]

They're different colors than rust red is what I was getting at. I think you can get more than one color out of copper glazes too? It's no big deal though.

Yes, but the problem is that I'd have to use different reactions for each of those colors.  And right now, glazing takes up four different actual things that pop up (for glazing statues, pots, jugs, and crafts all separately), so I only have monochromatic, dichromatic, polychromatic, and ash glazing. 

If I wanted celadon, I'd have to add in special reactions just for iron glazing, and special reactions just for copper glazing, which would use the same labor, same materials, same workshop, and only the color of the resulting objects (and maybe the value) would be different. 

I don't really think that's worth it.

[InsanityPrelude]

Possible glitch: In the embark menu, generic "stone" is showing up under powders. It goes away if I remove the mod.

Pretty sure it's not hurting anything, but it's a thing, anyway.

[NW_Kohaku]

Possible glitch: In the embark menu, generic "stone" is showing up under powders. It goes away if I remove the mod.

Pretty sure it's not hurting anything, but it's a thing, anyway.

Ah yes, I noticed this while playing, myself.

It's caused by how I changed all the inorganic others STATE_NAME to STATE_ADJ, and accidentally changed earthenware, stoneware, porcelain, and gypsum powder along with all the glazes.

It doesn't actually impact anything but the names, so you don't have to do anything but correct your raws, but I'll upload the fix.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4182

[NW_Kohaku]

There are issues with the game giving the glazes "oval cabochon" cuts because it is a "stone", but I can't do anything about that, as it is hard-coded.  So for now, consider this updated to 34.01.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4182

EDIT: Actually, I just figured out a way to fix that, so there's a new version that gets around that problem.

[Jiri Petru]

Kohaku, how much micromanagement does this mod add?
By that I mean: what do I see when the game asks me to select a glaze? Do I only get those four options mentioned at the beginning of the OP, and the dwarf then chooses the specific glaze himself (which would be nice)? Or do I get the complete list of 15 glazes and have to choose from these?

Thanks

[NW_Kohaku]

Kohaku, how much micromanagement does this mod add?
By that I mean: what do I see when the game asks me to select a glaze? Do I only get those four options mentioned at the beginning of the OP, and the dwarf then chooses the specific glaze himself (which would be nice)? Or do I get the complete list of 15 glazes and have to choose from these?

Thanks

You get four choices of what glaze types to use - Ash glaze, Monochromatic glaze (any non-ash glaze powder), Dichromatic glaze (requires one colored and one white), and Polychromatic glaze (requires one yellow, red, blue, and white glaze powder). 

You get four choices of what minerals to grind into glazes - anything that makes a glaze, "useless" stones only, non-critical minerals only, and ash bars.

You must have a jug to grind glazes, and, due to a problem in how the game searches for jugs, it must be water-tight, so you might need to make your first jugs from wood or something.

I would have liked to put in some more specific abilities to dictate what you glaze with, but I didn't want to flood the screen with more options than it already has.

[Thuellai]

Necroing to show my appreciation, and also to ask if it would be possible to create a reaction to glaze clay/stone bricks using reactions, and if so how that would be accomplished.  It seems like nice glazed bricks would be a good way to build some decently valuable constructions for those of us who like to build above-ground forts.

[Bogus]

should be very much doable.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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[REACTION:GLAZE_BLOCKS_ASH]
[NAME:glaze blocks with ash]
[BUILDING:KILN:NONE]
[REAGENT:glaze:150:BAR:NONE:ASH:NONE]
[REAGENT:blocks:1:BLOCKS:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REACTION_CLASS:CAN_GLAZE]
[NOT_IMPROVED]
[PRESERVE_REAGENT]
[IMPROVEMENT:100:blocks:GLAZED:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:glaze:GLAZE_MAT]
[FUEL]
[SKILL:GLAZING]

didnt test it but should work just like any other glazing reaction.

[milo christiansen]

Why use separate reactions for each glaze-able item? I always use just one that takes any glaze-able item. Then you use stockpiles to restrict what you want to glaze.

A single reaction is much more flexible, as then you can glaze and stone or pottery item you want without needing loads of reactions.

BTW: I have a pottery system that makes pottery take a while to air dry (as in, you leave it sit for a while, you don't need dwarf involvement at all) before it can be fired, plus glazing can be done (without fuel) before firing (but after drying). This is really cool, as then you can get "dry earthenware" items glazed with "damp ash glaze" that is fired into an "earthenware" item glazed with "ash glaze". Sadly this requires DFHack. If you want to see it in action Rubble comes with the "User/DFHack/Pottery" and "User/DFHack/Pottery/Glaze" addons that implement the system. It would be easy to use the scripts without Rubble, but DFHack is a hard requirement.

[Vattic]

Possibly so you can batch order through the manager. There have been mods that separate out milling for the same reason.

[InsanityPrelude]

Out of curiosity though, what does the "any glazeable item" reaction look like?

Edit: Looking at the raws again, it just occurred to me. The ash glaze reactions call for ash glaze powder...

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[REAGENT:glaze:15:POWDER_MISC:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:GLAZE_ASH]
[REAGENT:glaze container:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][CONTAINS:glaze][PRESERVE_REAGENT]
... but there doesn't appear to be a way to get ash glaze powder, and of course the game itself treats regular ash as bars.

Theoretically, replacing the reagent with [REAGENT:glaze:150:BAR:NONE:ASH:NONE] should work, right?

Or, you could add [POWDER_MISC_CREATURE] to the raw for ash glaze and then another reaction to turn ashes into... powdered ashes, I guess.

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[REACTION:MAKE_GLAZE_ASH]
[NAME:make glaze powder from ash]
[BUILDING:QUERN:CUSTOM_A]
[BUILDING:MILLSTONE:CUSTOM_A]
[REAGENT:glaze:150:BAR:NONE:ASH:NONE]
[REAGENT:jug:1:TOOL:NONE:NONE:NONE][EMPTY][HAS_TOOL_USE:LIQUID_CONTAINER][PRESERVE_REAGENT][DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
[PRODUCT:100:20:POWDER_MISC:NONE:INORGANIC:ASH_GLAZE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:15][PRODUCT_TO_CONTAINER:jug]
[SKILL:MILLING]
edit: noticed when I actually tried to use it that I'd gotten the name wrong in the product, fixed now

[milo christiansen]

The "any glaze able item" reaction basically replaces the specific reagent item with "NONE:NONE".

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[REACTION:GLAZE_OBJECT]
[NAME:monochrome glaze clay/stone object]
[BUILDING:KILN:CUSTOM_O]
[REAGENT:glaze:30:POWDER_MISC:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:GLAZE]
[REAGENT:glaze container:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][CONTAINS:glaze][PRESERVE_REAGENT][DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
[REAGENT:object:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REACTION_CLASS:CAN_GLAZE]
[EMPTY]
[NOT_IMPROVED]
[PRESERVE_REAGENT]
[IMPROVEMENT:100:object:GLAZED:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:glaze:NONE]
[FUEL]
[SKILL:GLAZING]