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Re: Dwarf Fortress Talk #13: Feedback
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2011, 04:22:52 pm »

this has been my favourite talk so far because I was thanked just for running with the name someone gave me like 20 years ago.

but ALSO because night creatures in the city is something I am very enthusiastic about! hopefully some day we'll see doppelgangers and hags and other terrors causing all kinds of mischief. it'd also be pretty cool if the surrounding community didn't know they were there, but instead there were like myths and local legends you could ask about. but I guess that stuff would probably come much later in development :Va

Lucky... as a "Melissa", I doubt my name will ever come up in the rotation  :'(
Perhaps one will be "and thanks to all the DF fans with girl's names". That's probably about the same amount of people as a single common male name.

Even if it was 50/50, Western cultures are noted for having a significantly larger pool of girl names than boy names, and hence fewer girls per name. I'm sure someone is getting a good thesis or two out of why.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Talk #13: Feedback
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2011, 04:24:30 pm »

You are welcome,

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Re: Dwarf Fortress Talk #13: Feedback
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2011, 05:53:37 pm »

Well if it helps you a bit abadidea many of players will nether be mentioned either because they are outside of the US-american culture thus 3/4 of us Europeans share that fate with you.

Also your name has a nice ring and history  ;)
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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2011, 04:36:30 am »

Oh my God.  Toady said "Rumsfeldian".  I'm dieing over here.

Pretty fascinating stuff about how large cities and invasions and player-presence is supposed to eventually work.  Ditto for purposefully non-lethal combat resolution.  Not that dwarven slapfights wouldn't be deadly in DF world anyway.
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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2011, 08:57:38 am »

Even if it was 50/50, Western cultures are noted for having a significantly larger pool of girl names than boy names, and hence fewer girls per name. I'm sure someone is getting a good thesis or two out of why.

Boy names can become unisex (e.g., Dana), and unisex names can become girl names (Adrian), but the reverse processes don't happen. Who knows why! It's a mystery.
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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2011, 05:28:57 pm »

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Boy names can become unisex (e.g., Dana), and unisex names can become girl names (Adrian), but the reverse processes don't happen. Who knows why! It's a mystery.

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A significant part of it can be accounted for by formerly masculine names that end in "y" (Stacy, Sidney, Lesley, &c.), because the "y" ending is diminutive, and it is seen as more appropriate to diminutize girls. Also, while strict sex/gender binarism discourages any name cross-over, female-to-male name cross-over faces the additional barrier that it is seen as insulting to give a boy a "girl's" name. Because society hates girls.

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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2011, 06:16:50 pm »

Even if it was 50/50, Western cultures are noted for having a significantly larger pool of girl names than boy names, and hence fewer girls per name. I'm sure someone is getting a good thesis or two out of why.

Boy names can become unisex (e.g., Dana), and unisex names can become girl names (Adrian), but the reverse processes don't happen. Who knows why! It's a mystery.
But... Dana is a female-only name (although Dan is male) and Adrian is a unisex name.
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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2011, 07:32:36 pm »

I chose bad (or US-centric?) examples, probably, but I think Dana is still acceptable for boys (if only just) while Adrian is less so (probably since Rocky, especially).
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Talk #13: Feedback
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2011, 09:25:23 pm »

Even if it was 50/50, Western cultures are noted for having a significantly larger pool of girl names than boy names, and hence fewer girls per name. I'm sure someone is getting a good thesis or two out of why.

Boy names can become unisex (e.g., Dana), and unisex names can become girl names (Adrian), but the reverse processes don't happen. Who knows why! It's a mystery.
But... Dana is a female-only name (although Dan is male) and Adrian is a unisex name.

I am pretty sure there are more men named Dana than women.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Talk #13: Feedback
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2011, 09:31:22 pm »

Even if it was 50/50, Western cultures are noted for having a significantly larger pool of girl names than boy names, and hence fewer girls per name. I'm sure someone is getting a good thesis or two out of why.

Boy names can become unisex (e.g., Dana), and unisex names can become girl names (Adrian), but the reverse processes don't happen. Who knows why! It's a mystery.
But... Dana is a female-only name (although Dan is male) and Adrian is a unisex name.

I am pretty sure there are more men named Dana than women.

I've heard Dana almost exclusively as a female name. Of course, my neighbors are named Billy Joe and Lynn, and BJ is the lady of the house, so I may be living in a fringe case.

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Re: Dwarf Fortress Talk #13: Feedback
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2011, 01:08:00 am »

I chose bad (or US-centric?) examples, probably, but I think Dana is still acceptable for boys (if only just) while Adrian is less so (probably since Rocky, especially).
I know four Adrians, and know of two more, all of them male.

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« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2011, 05:24:32 am »

Hm, the government proves I'm wrong. At least by rank, Dana is a girl name and Adrian is more popular for boys.

So flip my examples around, but I think the trend still stands.
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« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2011, 11:13:28 am »

Wow, I've never even heard of Adrian being a girl's name.

Is that a US thing?
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Talk #13: Feedback
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2011, 11:49:56 am »

I dunno, the only two Adrians I've heard of (the Iron Maiden guitarist and Ozymandius from Watchmen (I THINK his name was Adrian. Seems to ring a bell)) were both male.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Talk #13: Feedback
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2011, 01:58:45 pm »

It was Rocky's girlfriend's name in Rocky. So maybe just a US thing.
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