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[Mithril Leaf]

Never mind, turns out quality modifiers don't show up until you have a bookkeeper. 

[narhiril]

Yes, I embarked on a volcano with no sedimentary layers. As soon as I hit stone I was up to my ears in gold and obviously the magma from the volcano was free easy-to-access fuel.

Anyway, I was just thinking about the Temple of the Orphan. Erm, this may be a stupid suggestion, but all of the other temples require multiple difficult-to-get reagents. What I mean is that the reaction only takes gold bars, whereas the other *super priests* require multiple reagents. Maybe the Tempest might require gold and something...? It just seems to me that the Tempests are a little easy to get (compared to the others, particularly the emberlight and the wavebreaker.

Just thought I'd mention it. Maybe it was an oversight, maybe it was a design choice, or maybe I am just wrong

It's still a work in progress regarding all of the costs.  I tend to lowball them at first to get people familiar with the new features then work on the balancing act.  I'll definitely be doing more playtesting and bearing your feedback in mind for future balance tweaks.

[astianax]

narhiril, i really want to thank you for the added effort you put in on making all of those fire-immune and temp-immune templates, instead of just the ones you needed immediately. they've helped a ton with two of the entirely too many spiders i've designed. especially the silk templates. one spider lives in and around the magma sea, the other in glaciers. i'm...sort of a silk addict, i suppose

[ciadude2]

So maybe I did something to muck it up but I dunno... Anyway, my problem is that the new minerals, creatures, etc. all work for me, but the buildings don't. Like, I can't build alchemy labs, foundries, etc. and I don't know why.

I installed by downloading the newest version, and the mods I'm using are this one, Fortress Defense, and Phoebus's graphics.

The only raws I changed were for getting rid of trap avoid in certain creatures from Fortress Defense, and removing aquifers. Not sure why that would effect the buildings from LFR.

Other than that... the mod works smoothly for me.

[narhiril]

So maybe I did something to muck it up but I dunno... Anyway, my problem is that the new minerals, creatures, etc. all work for me, but the buildings don't. Like, I can't build alchemy labs, foundries, etc. and I don't know why.

I installed by downloading the newest version, and the mods I'm using are this one, Fortress Defense, and Phoebus's graphics.

The only raws I changed were for getting rid of trap avoid in certain creatures from Fortress Defense, and removing aquifers. Not sure why that would effect the buildings from LFR.

Other than that... the mod works smoothly for me.

It sounds to me like the entity_default file got overwritten, perhaps by a copy from Fortress Defense.  Go ahead and replace that file with the one from LFR or LFR-SC and everything should be fine.  It will probably require a new world, though.

[Meph]

It will probably definetly require a new world, though.

[narhiril]

I got a little side-tracked over the past few days.  A number of suggestions and concerns about ritual unit costs have come up over the last few months, so I've been gutting and re-building the ritual unit reactions from the ground up.

I've decided to abandon the material components of ceremonial reactions.  Instead, I thought - why not, instead of tying ritual units to limited (and often obscure) resources, there was a better way that I could control their influx which also makes a lot more sense from a lore standpoint.  From now on, prayers at the temples will sometimes yield a "symbol of (deity)'s favor," which will be the new reagent for transformation ceremonies.  Put simply - the more attention you offer to a deity with prayers, the more of that deity's units will be available.  Makes sense, right?

Symbols will only be produced by a set of new prayers, all similarly named, which will do nothing but produce symbols at a rate that approaches a constant predicted by the laws of probability.  Therefore, if you want to use the temple for prayers for other items, you will need to allocate time on the workshop that could be used for symbol prayers, or build another temple.  This also has the neat little side effect of offering some sort of additional incentive to build multiple temples in order to win favor more quickly.

Thoughts?


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Today has been dedicated to cleanup of the ritual tree and, on a more exciting note, some framework for new dwarven mechanical constructs (that can be pastured/penned).  I still have quite a bit to do, including but not limited to a few new b_detail_plans, graphics, finishing the abilities for umbrals, and, of course, testing, but it's going smoothly so far.

[ioi101]

Wouldn't it be best to have both? I.e. some units that require things you get without prayer and others purely from prayers. Since there's a variety of units to choose from, people could go with whichever they prefer. Perhaps make the fire-immune "side" of ritual units one way, and the other the other way. Or simply leave the old reactions and add these new ones, so there's two ways to aquire every ritual unit.

[greycat]

Today has been dedicated to cleanup of the ritual tree and, on a more exciting note, some framework for new dwarven mechanical constructs (that can be pastured/penned).

Clockwork sheep sound awesome.   Magma sheep, even more so!

[Pan]

That sounds like a great idea, actually!  More temples more favor... On a lore and gameplay standpoint, I like.

[simonthedwarf]

Nari do you have LFR 0.10 lying around somewhere?

[narhiril]

Nari do you have LFR 0.10 lying around somewhere?

Wow, there's a blast from the past.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=6696

I uploaded 0.10d.  If you need an even earlier version, let me know.

[simonthedwarf]

It's okay I was just being really Urist there for a moment. thanks anyway

[Stirk]

Clockwork sheep sound awesome.   Magma sheep, even more so!

I have always dreamed of electric sheep, myself.

How will the organization of the symbol thingies work? Will they fit in a stock pile or just lay on the alter until they are ready to use?

**EDIT**

I am playing a meokin adventurer who goes around owning goblins with a copper butterfly knife. In a fight with some boogeymen, I had misjudged the opponent in front of me, and instead of stepping back like I had planned, got bit. I stepped back and he bled to death, like I had planned, and went back to the village to sleep. Then, gazing upon my injuries, I noticed the part I lost was a valuable organ known as the "Right eye tooth". ...Does...Anyone know what that is? Should I be worried?


***EDIT 2***

What an interesting world this is! I was attacked by a group of goblins who ambushed me. I was of course, ready to fight them, and went to the defense of my Nephal chanter buddy I kept around to get rid of the boogeymen. Strangly, they where uninterested in my, and proceeded to rip apart my buddy. After the fight, I talked to them, and they answered as normal soldiers would. I brought one of them with me, asked one for a quest, and went back on my merry way. I also noticed that underground Armorock thing also has some eye teeth, do all of the creatures of this world have it?

[greycat]

The eye teeth are the teeth directly below the eyes.  If something has fangs, these will be the fangs.  Otherwise, they're just teeth.