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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #840 on: June 06, 2011, 07:49:33 am »

I think that bug is pretty damn hilarious. It cracked me up.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #841 on: June 06, 2011, 08:39:55 am »

"In bug news, the zombies in a necromancer's tower became suspicious after the necromancer failed to age and he fled into the hills"

It could happen! I saw a movie about this, where some priest was making zombies who all thought they were still alive. I can't remember what the name of it was. When they figured out they were all actually dead they were pissed.

Someone please tell me the name of that movie, I love trash movies :D
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #842 on: June 06, 2011, 08:50:43 am »

Haha oh wow.

Quote from: Toady
Quote from: freeformschooler
Is having a scripting language for manipulating things (much like DFHack is doing to a small extent) something you've considered? Like I said, it's been brought up a few times, so I was wondering if this was more of a post-1.0 goal
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With all these new tags I have to wonder. Do you foresee the RAW/tag system ever being outdated? After all, ultimately a tag is just a reference to something in the underlying hard-coding in the game.

There's a major accessibility issue in stepping up to an actual language, beyond whatever barriers the raws and the rest of the game already throw up.  I also have no experience with it so I'm not sure how to get it linked in with everything while keeping the memory and speed healthy, since it would be pervasive throughout a real-time environment that already suffers from speed problems.  I don't imagine that's guaranteed to go smoothly.

Did I really ask the same question twice? Sorry Toady, didn't mean to be impatient, I've got a short memory!
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #843 on: June 06, 2011, 09:20:49 am »

When I saw that there will be dungeons under cities I was pretty excited. Some good old dungeon delving! However I wonder if dungeons will occur in contexts other than just under cities?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #844 on: June 06, 2011, 09:34:28 am »

When I saw that there will be dungeons under cities I was pretty excited. Some good old dungeon delving! However I wonder if dungeons will occur in contexts other than just under cities?
I think they can occur under necromancer towers as well, and the pyramids are out in the Valley of the Kings style areas.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #845 on: June 06, 2011, 09:39:48 am »

Oh come on

While one of the better ones, my first thought was the same as Askot's. There have been some really crazy fun bugs in the past.

True- just off the top of my head, Scalyrends the Alligator beat this one hands down.


And hey, it looks like adventure mode has healthcare now! All you have to do is turn into a werewolf, and all your wounds will be gone! And all your equipment, but hey, them's the breaks.

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #846 on: June 06, 2011, 09:57:23 am »


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In bug news, the zombies in a necromancer's tower became suspicious after the necromancer failed to age and he fled into the hills.

Zombie 1: Mmmmrrrrrrhhhhhh... I dunno, living a hundred years without a wrinkle?  Seems pretty fishy to me.
Zombie 2: Ggggrrrrrrhhhhggg... Yeah, I hear you.  I mean, we don't age, but we're dead, that's just how it works.  What's his excuse?
Zombie 3: Nnnggggggghhhhh... I don't want to point any fingers, but you don't suppose it's... Just maybe... Dark magic?
Zombies 1 and 2: Zoinks!


For some reason I was thinking this:

Zombie: Are you a necromancer?
Necromancer: Yes and you're a zombie.
Zombie: No... that's impossible!
Necromancer: Search your feeling you know it to be true, in some ways, I am your father!
Zombie: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
The necromancer slashes the zombies right hand, it sails off in an arc!
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #847 on: June 06, 2011, 11:21:54 am »

Woooo WoT!

Inspired me for a quick question;

When were-creatures transform, what are their alignments? Obviously anti-original civ, but if two werewolves are running around, will they fight each other? How about if a werewolf and a werecapybara meet?
Again, the latest DF Talk seems to indicate that each were-creature type belongs to a specific faction, and will attack anything else on sight.  I'm not sure about nonsentient animals though - could go either way.

In short: (warning violent)
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #848 on: June 06, 2011, 11:49:27 am »

Also I don't think the people in adventure mode tell you about the weaknesses of their feared foes, because if they'd know them, those enemies wouldn't be all that dangerous to them.

Toady said in the devblog that quest-givers tell you the weakness, presumably when you get the quests to kill the things.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #849 on: June 06, 2011, 12:02:19 pm »

Also I don't think the people in adventure mode tell you about the weaknesses of their feared foes, because if they'd know them, those enemies wouldn't be all that dangerous to them.

Toady said in the devblog that quest-givers tell you the weakness, presumably when you get the quests to kill the things.

I need to boost out my reading comprehension skill then... sorry.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #850 on: June 06, 2011, 12:08:28 pm »

Unfortunately, if their weaknesses limited to weapons materials then... well, you can make short swords out of any stone, remember? Any of them.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #851 on: June 06, 2011, 12:29:09 pm »

Toady's almost certainly talking about weapon materials as in "materials with the ITEMS_WEAPON tag", which stone doesn't have. He's probably also limiting it so that DEEP materials won't be chosen as a weakness, or at least not the sole weakness. So no gneiss-hating weres to worry about for the time being.

Although, wood does have the tag... but there we have elves and training weapons...
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #852 on: June 06, 2011, 12:31:24 pm »

Unfortunately, if their weaknesses limited to weapons materials then... well, you can make short swords out of any stone, remember? Any of them.

Hasn't that been broken for a long time, though? Last I remember, the material for a stone short sword wound up being the *wood* used to make it, not the stone.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #853 on: June 06, 2011, 12:39:05 pm »

Although, wood does have the tag... but there we have elves and training weapons...

The idea of druids growing spears in sacred groves in order that elven rangers might hunt down undead/night creatures with them is actually kind of thematically perfect.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #854 on: June 06, 2011, 12:39:25 pm »

Unfortunately, if their weaknesses limited to weapons materials then... well, you can make short swords out of any stone, remember? Any of them.

Hasn't that been broken for a long time, though? Last I remember, the material for a stone short sword wound up being the *wood* used to make it, not the stone.

I'm pretty sure it's all working now, as I've made some Sylvite Short Swords in my current fort. Unless it's using the wood material and calling it the rock material, which seems unlikely. However, I should warn that they're not necessarily much better than wooden short swords.

Toady's almost certainly talking about weapon materials as in "materials with the ITEMS_WEAPON tag", which stone doesn't have. He's probably also limiting it so that DEEP materials won't be chosen as a weakness, or at least not the sole weakness. So no gneiss-hating weres to worry about for the time being.

Both things would be great. However, if the world was population with whole generations of gneiss-hating weres, I wouldn't mind attempting a gneiss expedition!
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