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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2011, 11:56:03 am »

it's the first law.
Oh. Right. I had in mind the no-entropy universe of Tron, for some reason...
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2011, 12:04:38 pm »

About 5 minutes after i started playing and 7 big burly dwarfs ran away from a badger.
Let me say, I have caught rattle snakes, scared off a mountain lion, a couple of bobcats and eat least 5 different bears (no, none of those things were at once.)

I found a badger near where I was camping and that vicious little bastard scared me more than anything else I've ever seen. I can not blame those dwarves in the slightest.
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2011, 12:39:29 pm »

HHmmm.... I think the title is supposed to be "DF non-logic", as "non-DF logic" would mean logic found anywhere but in DF... which may be a very interesting topic on its own - IE when did DF become your only source of logic/reasoning and the sum of all truth... a scary prospect.
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2011, 01:16:23 pm »

Probably when I read the wiki article "Dwarven Physics".
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2011, 02:38:00 pm »

When I noticed, that a single cat can feed a Dwarf for a few months.

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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2011, 03:25:20 pm »

When I discovered a lever can be set to open a door without any connection between the two apart from a couple of mechanisms.
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2011, 03:59:57 pm »

When I noticed that dragonfire can't even melt soap walls.
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2011, 04:01:05 pm »

when i learned that the only weakness of bronze collossi are fluffy wamblers
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2011, 06:11:53 pm »

When I discovered that dragons can't fly. I think.

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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2011, 08:24:47 pm »

it's the first law.
Oh. Right. I had in mind the no-entropy universe of Tron, for some reason...

Technically it's both laws which are used to punt perpetual motion machines out the window.

The first law says that all of the energy you can get out is exactly the same as all the enery you put in - thus the surplus energy generator is out, but technically a perpetual motion machine is still possible - put in a bit of energy, it starts moving, that energy is never lost (but taking energy out would slow or stop the sytem)

The second law is all about entropic decay - which basically means that no real system is perfectly self-sustaining: a portion of the energy produced is useless. Which means a perpetual motion machine (net energy production/consumption = 0) is impossible, since the energy will eventually... "break down" into useless forms.


When I discovered that dragons can't fly. I think.

Which actually obeys non-DF logic. Anything that big would require terrific force to be able to fly. A body that weighs about 80 kg (Like, say, a human; DF dragons are much larger and heavier, I suspect) would take wings with a wingspan of about 30 metres. And pectoral and back muscles about the volume of a large dog.
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2011, 09:15:45 pm »

Are you trying to say dwarf fortress is unrealistic?
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2011, 09:17:00 pm »

I'm saying reality is undwarfy.
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2011, 09:30:31 pm »

Honestly i still use non-df logic in df. i find it is mostly applicable it just need some, erm, minor alterations. Yes, minor alterations

Amputation is not a minor alteration. Especially a full body amputation.

My DF moment was when I noticed that all stone crafts start at the same weight, and no waste material is made. Where does the excess go?
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2011, 09:32:03 pm »

To the beard, of course. It absorbs dust floating around to lengthen itself.
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Re: When did you stop believing in non-DF logic?
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2011, 12:34:04 pm »

The fact that copper picks can cut straight into hell but the god aweful hell spawned demons are unable to do the same
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