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[Elite Grunt]

@Title
It has physics now. 
Anyway, right now it has a lot
of bugs, and the australian community...
well there are only about 100 respectable people in the
Oz community...the other 300 or so are..crap.
(no offense to that other 300 or so people!)

[dood_]

So me and a few friends did some !!SCIENCE!! with the undead.


Our main goal: Investigate reports from the front lines that zombies turn on each other at suitably high population density

Secondary goal: Find if infection rates vary for differing classes

Tertiary goal: Discover, if any, if there is any block immune to the dreaded Zombie Knight's (ZK's) swing.



Phase One: Construct a modest underground pit, in the shape of a reverse pyramid. This was suggested by one of the interns. His reasoning that although the smaller Dead can scale sheer walls, they have not been observed to climb past overhangs.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Notes: Here you can see our initial design. Note the wooden doors directly above the drop. Some difficulty during the Feeding Time Procedure, with migrants attempting to escape. Once population reached Six Basic Zombies, they begin climbing one another to reach the door. Recommended by the team to have a knight on standby at all times in case of incident.

However, during a "feeding time" procedure, the feeder fell into the pit. Although we were able to recover him with only minor damage, we were forced to kill several zombies, and the escape materials remained in the pit.

This would prove fatal, as shortly after the zombies chewed through the containment doors, escaping into the tunnel system. The system was sealed.

There were no observed inter-dead attacks.


Conclusions: Firstly, that there is no variation in infection rate discovered so far.

Secondly, that a knights shield can hold off any number of zombies at once, provided they come from one direction, and can not climb over him.

Phase Two: Construct a much deeper pit, to prevent the issue of zombies using each other as one extended piggy back. Capture a zombie knight. Discover at what density zombies turn on each other.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Notes: Initially this went quite well. Note the upgraded feeding drop, constructed out of trap bridges, which draw away if an undead is near. If we are placing a "Volunteer" in the pit, we need simply stand on the lower one, and drop them.

Furthermore, our highest hopes were validated when we noted the undead biting and clawing each other! Although no intact notes made it out (read on to see why), we can safely say that it is at least once zombies have to stand two deep, do they attack each other, preferring to attack any "new comer" to their pit, before attacking the existing members.

Of course, this all changed once we managed to subdue a ZK through the use of three simultaneous bombs, and a few well aimed slashes from the security forces. Once knocked out, we quickly dragged it to the pit.

It awoke, casually crushed a few zombies, and began tearing through the stone lining to the mining shaft.

We decided that a keg would be the best bet, and sure enough, it knocked it down, as well as thinning the zombie numbers. Side note; Some of which escaped into the tunnels. We replaced the stone with with wooden walls, and placed the ZK back in it's home.

The wood was destroyed even quicker.

We repeated the containment procedure, but this time lined the pit with gold. The ZK was unable to escape.

Our experiment done, we began celebrating! In our arrogant folly, we had not noticed the top side team being overwhelmed. We quickly manned the defences, only to be met by the emerging freshly dead miners from inside our fort.

In the panic, the bulk of our forces died quickly, with the last few attempting to flee.



He's beneath the pile of zombies to the right.

Conclusion: A well made fort will be invincible to standard zombies, due to their hunger overwhelming them and causing them to attack each other.
Coat the outside of a fort with gold to prevent ZK's from levelling everything.
There is no variance in infection rates. It is a few seconds for everyone


Now if only we had something to use against the Wraiths...

[miauw62]

Gold blocks should be zombie-proof.
Gold padded towers are usually a great way.
Oh, does the bug that causes zombies to phase trough walls still exist? Somebody made a gold-padded zombie trap using that.

[Sinistar]

Hmmmmm...

Gameplay video posted in the first post seemed ok, but did not really appeal to me. But then I saw this...Now that was more like it!

I TOTALLY dig the looks and the sounds of this game. I like Terraria, but this game struck me as quite different from it both in audio/video section as in gameplay section. On the other hand, I did not actually try KAG yet, nor read 16+ pages of this thread so may be wrong at least about gameplay. But it really seems like fun. Plus this WAR mode announced 2 weeks ago seems very interesting indeed.
I doubt I'll buy it anytime soon, but I'll try free version and keep track of the development. Thanks for info.

[Anvilfolk]

This is the ONLY game that's ever had me laughing out loud while playing multiplayer.

I personally love it, but am waiting for the big patch to get back into it

[Nighthawk]

This is the ONLY game that's ever had me laughing out loud while playing multiplayer.

I personally love it, but am waiting for the big patch to get back into it

I've been playing it on and off, less so since school's started. But as soon as that patch comes out, you can be I'll be the first person out there, re-learning the system as quickly as possible.
I hope it comes out soon, but on the other hand, I hope they take their time on it and make it a quality patch.

[miauw62]

If you are using free version, play on the action unlimited server.
Units suck, thats a fact. Unlimited servers ftw

[dwarfhoplite]

I've been playing it a few days and it's amazing.
I love archers.

[miauw62]

Builders are great if you know how to play them.
With a good enough team, i can build and maintain a tower for a long time, and reclaim it if we get pushed back.

[Flying Dice]

Finally got around to upgrading from the free version, now that there's enough content to justify it.

[miauw62]

Finally got around to upgrading from the free version, now that there's enough content to justify it.

Yeah, except for the fact that every premium server is a water-map fuckup where all you do is build huge towers and shoot catapults at eachother.
Tough i gotta say that grabbing a keg and then launching yourself makes for a better projectile. Especially on infinite servers.

[Flying Dice]

Honestly, it was probably worth it just for the map editor.

[Nighthawk]

Yeah, except for the fact that every premium server is a water-map fuckup where all you do is build huge towers and shoot catapults at eachother.
Tough i gotta say that grabbing a keg and then launching yourself makes for a better projectile. Especially on infinite servers.

The servers I play on don't even have water anymore...
I play on the Official MOLE Server and [!] Action Unlimited.

I don't know what water maps you're complaining about because I haven't seen any in the past month.

[miauw62]

Hehe, i probably complained too early. I havent played alot in a long time. And isnt action unlimited a pub server? (aka, not even a possibility for water?).

Last time i played on official mole i holed in a knight with stone, and he couldnt escape :3
(he could have jumpslashed up,  but before he realized that i holed him up further)

[Leatra]

For me, the only thing that seems cool about premium is zombies.