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Author Topic: Possible to get a Tank?  (Read 15775 times)

Goldsaver

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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2011, 04:20:23 pm »

Eh, been having trouble getting alone with a tank and my flamethrowers...
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2011, 07:13:08 pm »

Having tested the Flamethrower on the tank, I can confidently say that fire damage does not affect it any different than any other kind of damage.
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2011, 07:09:33 am »

Try Guitar Damage and having an ex Eminent Scientist explain to it where it's mummy and daddy came from...
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2011, 07:12:54 am »

Having tested the Flamethrower on the tank, I can confidently say that fire damage does not affect it any different than any other kind of damage.

It should do more damage, in theory. Does it say no damage is inflicted, or is it just that the tank is still alive and well afterward, and still mowing down your guys?

Perhaps it would be worthwhile to send the tank's armor to 0 for fire damage. Then again, maybe such extreme measures should be reserved for some kind of anti-tank gun or rocket launcher that isn't in the game yet.
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2011, 07:29:00 am »

Another choice would be making the tank vulnerable once it has no one on foot to cover it.
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2011, 08:32:43 am »

Hm, that would be unbalanced given the current usage of tanks. The two places tanks show up are 1. During assaults, where they park at the front of your base without an escort, and 2. During escapes, when they're almost always the last unit following if you run, since they don't have to make stat-based running checks to see if they keep up with you.
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2011, 09:34:03 am »

M'yeah...
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2011, 09:45:35 am »

It would be cool if you could steal a (just ONE once) tank from the army base and maybe use it in liberal disobediance... Crush S.U.V's, blow up corporate buildings etc.
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2011, 11:03:15 am »

Having tested the Flamethrower on the tank, I can confidently say that fire damage does not affect it any different than any other kind of damage.

It should do more damage, in theory. Does it say no damage is inflicted, or is it just that the tank is still alive and well afterward, and still mowing down your guys?

Perhaps it would be worthwhile to send the tank's armor to 0 for fire damage. Then again, maybe such extreme measures should be reserved for some kind of anti-tank gun or rocket launcher that isn't in the game yet.
It gives the same message as any other ranged weapon, and is still alive afterwards.

Hm, that would be unbalanced given the current usage of tanks. The two places tanks show up are 1. During assaults, where they park at the front of your base without an escort, and 2. During escapes, when they're almost always the last unit following if you run, since they don't have to make stat-based running checks to see if they keep up with you.
They appear in the Military base as reinforcements as well.
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2011, 01:58:26 pm »

Oh, hehe, I completely forgot about them appearing in the military base. Thanks for reminding me!
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2011, 06:54:32 am »

Actually, we could get a tank as a special bonus from the military base. After running through hell and high water, mowing down soldiers and escaping tanks, you could find an empty tank and order one of your liberal to drive it, thus swapping him/her for an Armored Tank.
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2011, 02:58:11 pm »

"...he's more machine than man, now."
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2011, 02:20:58 am »

Actually it should need an entire squad to man a tank.
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2011, 02:29:33 am »

Actually it should need an entire squad to man a tank.
I'm not sure about that. Wikipedia lists the required crew as four: Commander, Gunner, Loader, Driver. They could be given skill rolls for Heart, Heavy Weapons, Agility, and Driving respectively. If the commander messes up no one gets orders and the tank can't move. If the gunner messes up the 120 MM cannon misses the enemy and tears a hole through the site, unless the loader misses in which case he drops the shell. This has a small chance of setting off the shell, destroying the tank and almost certainly killing all four liberals inside. If the driver messes up the tank can't move and smashes a wall. The tank could also have a ramming attack where it tries to crush the enemy, and that would rely on the driver as well. If that messes up, it could risk killing a liberal outside of the tank instead.

So yeah, hope your tank crew have good stats.
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Re: Possible to get a Tank?
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2011, 02:40:13 am »

I was more referring to the idea mentioned previously of a single guy driving a tank, when in reality it's a team effort to be properly usable. 4 is still most of a squad, If you've got 4 in there already it would be easier just to say the tank holds 1 squad and assign the 4 roles with extra guys able fire machine guns out or something, rather than have 2 guys left outside, seeing as how LCS does squads of 6 maximum.

Typical WWII battle tanks, e.g Sherman, Panzer III, T34, had 5 guys, I guess they've cut 1 guy down due to better control systems.

What would make it more difficult to implement nicely is that there are currently two systems for vehicles, your squad cars and the tanks are modelled and handled completely differently, and only work in different modes. Maybe make commandeering a tank a getaway option? Able to use stolen tank as squad transport maybe? But being able to drive around in one should create heat.
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