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Baaal

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Nightvision.
« on: June 02, 2011, 09:50:28 pm »

So, I was wondering how could dorfs see underground in all those dark places. Well more precisely, I should ask myself about every DF creatures, 'cause they all know how to move in my underground lairs.
Feel free to contribute with any precise answers or personal ideas.

And please excuse my bad english, car ce n'est pas ma langue maternelle.
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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 09:56:26 pm »

Some creatures give off light, but not enough to light up the whole cavern. I wonder why as well.

Dwarves are adapted to the underground, so they have a reason. Adventurers...

No.

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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 10:33:13 pm »

How do dwarves fire siege weapons and crossbows while blind?

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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 10:35:01 pm »

How do dwarves fire siege weapons and crossbows while blind?
Really good adaptation.

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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 10:37:03 pm »

Beard-Vision.

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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 10:50:01 pm »

Beard-Vision.
HELL YEAH.

BBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDD PPPPPPOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR

That's why dwarves move slow without alcohol. They can't see  :P

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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 10:58:54 pm »

always assumed it was like d and d.
dwarves have low light vision.

as would you and i if we lived 90% of our lives underground.
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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 11:00:26 pm »

always assumed it was like d and d.
dwarves have low light vision.

as would you and i if we lived 90% of our lives underground.
...

Is it bad to say I have good low-light vision?

Baaal

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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 11:12:02 pm »

@Poindexterity : quite agree with your DD explanation, though it doesn't enlight us about the great agility of other non bat-eyed creature to travel in our settlements.

Nothing to see, but in Minecraft light and the day/night cycle are key elements of the game, and in DK if I remeber well, torches were automatically disposed during the digging of your imps. Maybe caring about light effects is a technology/ 3D render novelty. Hm. Must dig in my oldies to check.
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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2011, 12:12:11 am »

well, lemme see here...

if i remember correctly, elves have nightvision as well.
so do goblins, kobolds, and most yucky invady type things.

hunams though...

ummm...

yeah, ya got me on that one.

I'm going with nightvision potions from the alchemists back home.
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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2011, 12:18:16 am »

Only reasonable explanation is that a creature adapted to living underground has extremly adapted eyes. Could be also a factor why our fellas vomit overground; if the eyes adapt more slowly compared to our human ones it may give funny outputs which lead to dizziness and vomit. Alcohol counters these effects, leaving a dwarf normal overground.

However, most dwarves have severe alcohol adaptation.... ;)
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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2011, 12:24:45 am »

Underground has low levels of light and very little air circulation.

Dwarves develop low-light vision (plump helmets are packed with beta carotene!) and their facial follicles become sensitive to the motions that a breeze produces against their beards, which allows them to tell where tunnels turn.

As they go deeper, their eyes become less relied upon, and they adapt further to rely on their whisker-based folli-cation.

These eventually become so sensitive that, should a dwarf venture outside, the wind is the equivalent of multicolored and varying strobe lights. This is as aggravating to a dwarf's folli-cation as a Pink Floyd show seen while sober is to our sight, up to the point of causing nausea.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 12:28:45 am by Deus Machina »
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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2011, 12:28:03 am »

Double-post!
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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2011, 02:40:19 am »

Underground has low levels of light and very little air circulation.

Dwarves develop low-light vision (plump helmets are packed with beta carotene!) and their facial follicles become sensitive to the motions that a breeze produces against their beards, which allows them to tell where tunnels turn.

As they go deeper, their eyes become less relied upon, and they adapt further to rely on their whisker-based folli-cation.

These eventually become so sensitive that, should a dwarf venture outside, the wind is the equivalent of multicolored and varying strobe lights. This is as aggravating to a dwarf's folli-cation as a Pink Floyd show seen while sober is to our sight, up to the point of causing nausea.

forget all my childish nonsense.

this man has the one true answer.
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Re: Nightvision.
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2011, 08:54:30 am »

Cats can see single photons, Dwarves just follow their cats about underground.
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