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Author Topic: 40d question: If I capture a male elf and a female elf, will they breed?  (Read 12173 times)

Angel Of Death

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I want to breed elves and use the children as living targets for marksdwarves and melee dwarves. If I were to capture a hostile male and a hostile female elf, would they breed in the fort?
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sry no (however you can embark on a forest retreat and capture the children there i always loved putting the parents of a child in a cage with a captured tentacle demon and forcing the child to run around the cage in a ring full of weapon traps with one wooden whip in each so as to coat everything nearby parents included in the childs blood)  :)
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sry no (however you can embark on a forest retreat and capture the children there i always loved putting the parents of a child in a cage with a captured tentacle demon and forcing the child to run around the cage in a ring full of weapon traps with one wooden whip in each so as to coat everything nearby parents included in the childs blood)  :)

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I've actually had invader horses give birth on the map, along with an invader race of spiders. There is also a recorded case of a captured 40d human diplomat who had children while inside a glass enclosure. The easiest way to find out is to try it yourself.
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I've actually had invader horses give birth on the map, along with an invader race of spiders. There is also a recorded case of a captured 40d human diplomat who had children while inside a glass enclosure. The easiest way to find out is to try it yourself.
and if it doesn't work...mod it in!make them work like slaves for the mighty DWARFDOM.
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“Well,” he said. “We’re in the Forgotten hunting grounds I take it. Your screams just woke them up early. Congratulations, Lyara.”
“Do something!” she whispered, trying to keep her sight on all of them at once.
Basileus clapped his hands once. The Forgotten took a step forward, attracted by the sound.
“There, I did something. I clapped. I like clapping,” he said. -The Investigator And The Case Of The Missing Brain.

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Intelligent creatures (including elves) only give birth if married.  Only members of your fortress will get married in fortress mode, so invaders, traders, or diplomats won't get married and therefore won't give birth.  The only exception is if you have a pair of legendary figures who were married in world gen, and manage to capture both of them.
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New question! If I were to remove elves [INTELLIGENT] tag in the raws, would it work? 40d dosen't have seperate world raws, just one set raw file.
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I think you can add the [PET] tag and train them. Imagine it like you've enslaved them. In the same vein see if that let's you butcher them and make all the clothes in your fort from elf leather.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2011, 12:01:07 pm by Naz »
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I think you can add the [PET] tag and train them. Imagine it like you've enslaved them. In the same vein see if that let's you butcher them and make all the clothes in your fort from elf leather.
Will it mess around with them being a civ creature? Will it turn them into complete animals instead of actual elves who live in forest retreats?
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I believe they'll still be a civ creature. Havent tried this myself. I'm remembering this from a thread a while back where someone started up an industry of elf-derivative products. Theres probably more dimensions to it than just the one tag. I'll dig around for that thread. I'd like to see you get this working, I needs me some low boots made of elf face.
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I believe they'll still be a civ creature. Havent tried this myself. I'm remembering this from a thread a while back where someone started up an industry of elf-derivative products. Theres probably more dimensions to it than just the one tag. I'll dig around for that thread. I'd like to see you get this working, I needs me some low boots made of elf face.

then maybe there's more than one civ...and...
"oh we are elves and love your etichal works!!! we wish to trade!"
"right-o. Now here you go with the masterwork roasts we'll take all the rest"
"oh golly!!! we LOVE your ROASTS...they're so delicious and nutricious"
*elves leave the premises*
"MINCE MORE POINTY EARS URIST!!! MOVE IT!"
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“Well,” he said. “We’re in the Forgotten hunting grounds I take it. Your screams just woke them up early. Congratulations, Lyara.”
“Do something!” she whispered, trying to keep her sight on all of them at once.
Basileus clapped his hands once. The Forgotten took a step forward, attracted by the sound.
“There, I did something. I clapped. I like clapping,” he said. -The Investigator And The Case Of The Missing Brain.

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Ok, first off you need to mod ethics a bit. Here's the thread talking about that.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=82675.msg2199330#msg2199330
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Secondly I'm afraid you might be boned on the idea of breeding them because I can't find where in the raws it requires marriage to reproduce (though the wiki did try and sell me Filipino mail order brides like 4 times), might be the [INTELLIGENT] tag. Looks like modding the elves to siege again along with the [PET] tag and a pile of cage traps is your best bet. In my search though I did find a few other things that might be of use to an elf industry.

First mod female elves to be [MILKABLE]. I believe genesis mod includes the tissue raws for breasts too so you might have a look over there.

Second add [COOKABLE_LIVE] tag to elves that way you can either butcher them for their bones n such or your cook can just put em straight on the fire.

My new Filipino harem and I wish you luck in your endeavors.
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I think I'll make them [PET_EXOTIC], since the re-educator Dungeon Master is functioning in 40d
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You know, its been said before, but this is the only community on the internet where describing, in detail, how to enslave, exploit, and commit atrocities against an entire species in the name of basic agriculture would be met only by someone suggesting a minor tweak to the details of the process.

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