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Author Topic: what happens to creatures in a cage if the cage is frozen and then re thawed  (Read 5290 times)

gawwy

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what happens to creatures in a cage if the cage is frozen and then re thawed?

Lectorog

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Absolutely nothing. Caged creatures are unaffected by water, freezing, etc.

I once put a cage full of turkey poults underwater in a freezing stream until they matured, to test this.
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gawwy

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so things will age. do dorfs get happy/unhappy thoughts and do wounds bleed out / infections get worse?

Lectorog

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I think life progresses as normal for a dwarf. I know they get hungry and thirsty, so that's an issue, but they can be brought food. Other than that, I think it's just like them being idle.
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specifically, it removes the creature from the environment.  Grazers will starve, but they go into cagespace, where temperature, water, ice, whatever, doesn't touch them.

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I'm not yet convinced that creatures actually grow while in cages. I've heard reports that animals left to mature in cages don't leave the right amount of meat when butchered later. Testing would be in order here.
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I'm not yet convinced that creatures actually grow while in cages. I've heard reports that animals left to mature in cages don't leave the right amount of meat when butchered later. Testing would be in order here.
Hee hee; I wasn't exactly using the turkeys for food... I'll have to test for meat output if I ever do that again. It's highly likely that I will.
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specifically, it removes the creature from the environment.  Grazers will starve, but they go into cagespace, where temperature, water, ice, whatever, doesn't touch them.

Really? Because when I was testing to see if cages (specifically glass cages) could be used for expeditions into the magma sea I dropped a rabbit into a volcano and it quickly melted to death. It even died before an unprotected mason, who decided to stand on the cage while removing the floor connecting it to solid ground.
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The problem MAY be the glass cage.  IIRC, glass is still buggy in how it reacts to magma.  Some items melt in it, some don't.  Glass pumps appear to be safe, but certain glass crafts and such clearly melt.

Try again with like, a lead cage or a steel cage, etc.  See if you get different results.
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gawwy

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so a dorf in a cage that has then been frozen would still need feedind and watering?

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The problem MAY be the glass cage.  IIRC, glass is still buggy in how it reacts to magma.  Some items melt in it, some don't.  Glass pumps appear to be safe, but certain glass crafts and such clearly melt.

Try again with like, a lead cage or a steel cage, etc.  See if you get different results.

Nope, it definitely wasn't the material. I just repeated the test with nickel cages (nickel is magma safe) and the rabbit still melted. The cage itself remained unscathed. In regards to frozen creatures staying safe, it might be because cold takes longer to damage and kill, if it is even cold enough to cause any damage at all (The cage presumably causes the creature to be included under the cages item classification, preventing it from dying from being encased in ice.)
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Temperature transfer works through cages, as I caged a forgotten beast made of flame in a steel cage once, and the cage could constantly boil water and incinerate dwarves.

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It appears that what a dwarf would call a +copper cage+ is actually a container capable of traveling at the speed of light through the corona of a white dwarf star (no pun intended) and arriving intact at its destination with a triving bunch of kittens inside.
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turn your jail into cast obsidian and mine out the cages to see
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