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Author Topic: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?  (Read 18611 times)

GhostSade

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Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« on: July 28, 2011, 07:26:38 pm »

Say the diagnosis level of a dwarf is like 2, will he give the exact same diagnosis as a legendary diagnostician, or could he screw up and call for incorrect procedures, potentially harming the dwarf and wasting resources and time in the process?
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2011, 07:34:38 pm »

If it doesn't, then I want it in.

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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2011, 07:36:39 pm »

I don't think anything like that is implimented yet. It may affect time taken to diagnose, though.
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2011, 07:40:56 pm »

If it doesn't, then I want it in.

"This man has an infected liver! We're going to have to take it out!"

Sounds like the Medic from TF2.  o.o
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 07:42:19 pm »

"Well, Mr. Urist, there's good news and bad news. The good news is that your spine had only mild bruising. The bad news is that our intern took your legs off anyway."
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 08:33:34 pm »

"Well, Mr. Urist, there's good news and bad news. The good news is that your spine had only mild bruising. The bad news is that our intern took your legs off anyway."
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2011, 08:41:48 pm »

Yes the skill affects the diagonsis.  Low levels will have to re-diagnois often, and will sometimes need multiple tries to get it right.  Also some poisons/forgotten beast things won't be caught by low skill levels, like light rotting.  It makes it really hard to stop otherwise preventable things.
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2011, 08:47:34 pm »

Yes the skill affects the diagonsis.  Low levels will have to re-diagnois often, and will sometimes need multiple tries to get it right.  Also some poisons/forgotten beast things won't be caught by low skill levels, like light rotting.  It makes it really hard to stop otherwise preventable things.
i had a hunch this was the case.
suddenly i dont feel dumb at ALL for always embarking with a 5 point diagnoser.
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2011, 09:38:02 pm »

I had a fish cleaner turned emergency medic diagnose a missing foot 7 times before finally coming to the glorious conclusion that the patient needed a crutch.  Which somebody else gave him, so I'm not even sure Dr. McI'mBetterWithIchthyes was the one that figured it out.

Bad diagnosers are hilarious....and sometimes a little sad.
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2011, 09:42:25 pm »

welp I just did a bit of testing
A 0 skill medic with diagnose turned on, who barely cared for others with no empathy just diagnosed a patient with rotten lungs (for a small cut on thier arm) and then removed both lungs.  He did not survive the operation.  It seems that skill-less diagnoses can give false results.
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2011, 09:43:57 pm »

welp I just did a bit of testing
A 0 skill medic with diagnose turned on, who barely cared for others with no empathy just diagnosed a patient with rotten lungs (for a small cut on thier arm) and then removed both lungs.  He did not survive the operation.  It seems that skill-less diagnoses can give false results.

Well, maybe that's just dwarven medicine. We need a control test. Have a legendary diagnoser do the same operation on the same guy!

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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2011, 09:44:49 pm »

welp I just did a bit of testing
A 0 skill medic with diagnose turned on, who barely cared for others with no empathy just diagnosed a patient with rotten lungs (for a small cut on thier arm) and then removed both lungs.  He did not survive the operation.  It seems that skill-less diagnoses can give false results.
I will now start placing 0-skill diagnosticians as my chief medical dwarves. This is hilarious.
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2011, 09:46:55 pm »

Doctor: He needs surgery!  We must remove his damaged lungs to keep the rotting from spreading!
Nurse:Doctor, are you sure that's wise?
Doctor:Quiet!  I'm the doctor.
*Hack chop*
Urist McBuisedToe has suffocated.
Doctor:No, I lost him.... Why must God take away only the good people!!!!!
Armok: Because you removed both his lungs you dumbass.
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2011, 10:57:42 pm »

A 0 skill medic with diagnose turned on, who barely cared for others with no empathy just diagnosed a patient with rotten lungs (for a small cut on thier arm) and then removed both lungs.  He did not survive the operation.

Wait... what?

I knew dwarfs were idiots, but this takes the cake. Mmm... cake.
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Re: Does a shitty diagnostician affect resulting diagnosis?
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2011, 11:43:45 pm »

I had a legendary diagnoser (odd fortress where more were wounded than killed and I git a ton of doctors coming in via migration) once. It was pretty awesome, he hated people in general and managed to get his leg seriously damaged in an FB attack. So I named him House. There was also a novice surgeon who came in with novice surgery skills. He was immediately made into both the butcher and the surgeon, both facilities were next to each other, lots of fun was had. :D
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