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Ulfarr

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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #4440 on: January 09, 2021, 09:00:50 am »

10 Suffers from a bad reputation unfairly though.

It's not an unfair reputation. Win10 might be good enough from a technical standpoint but they're the very definition of anti-consumer policies.

When a previously working machine breaks down after their so called "update", then it's not the hardware's fault. Calling it "hacky customization" downplays the fact that they did a poor job at both making and testing said update. It's also shifts the blame to the end user because "how dare they use their previously working hardware".

When they hide the machine's settings and you have to spent hours researching how to do anything then any notion of user friendliness goes out of the window (pun intended). For fuck's sake for something as simple as changing the date format you have to 1) find the proper "control panel" because the so called "settings" don't have the needed options 2) change your region settings to country that commonly uses  the format you want  3) go to the time/date settings and change the format.

When they mark otherwise unnecessary programms as vital simply becasue they happen to be products of theirs, but you don't use them , the OS doesn't use them and you can't get rid of them because even if you unistall them they'll be back in the next update then it's clear that they only care about shoving their bloatware on the end user without respect to their hardware limitations.

When their so called update that they force you to do, only changes the default programm for a certain task from your prefared one to  the one their current executives want to promote then it's clear that they view your machine as their property.
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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #4441 on: January 09, 2021, 09:37:08 am »

I mean when you're regediting aero peak preview tweaks I'd call that hacky allright. I have been meaning to cut the umbilical cord, I will definitly do it on the mini pc

edit: fuck you what kind of key allows to post in one keyhit and then going back shows me a post message window with what I've written plus also a warning somebody posted, with the same message just below the box, that ain't right

anyway yeah I might go nuclear on the small pc to brick it from updating if I manage to, if I'm pleased with the results I might do it on the big one too, but I got a feeling that modern rtx shit and such won't run forever if I have that pc stuck in 2020





I agree that they are anti consumer, even more so in the long term, and evil monopolists. But I'd also say there is no consumer consideration to speak of anywhere else, to begin with:

-mac expensive proprietary hardware, annoying and limiting software formats... all that for a nice skin on the OS and good proprietary peripheral support, come throw money at your problems, meanwhile we don't even fucking bother with thermals

-android IMHO is actively working to uneducate people about tech, don't be concerned where your actual data is stored we will dillute the border between digital and RL, cloud and HDD, you have to get really hacky if you want to do whatever on android meanwhil, te the majority use it just a vector for advertising and having your personal data sold... try installing the appstore on an android that doesn't have it, or uninstalling it on an android that has it, and you will know what the fuck you're up against

-linux x86 is supposed to work but in practice, good luck hope you got very common and generic components

-linux arm their ENTIRE video acceleration hardware is a scam, not only are you fucked on the frontend for the usual linux reasons, no apparantly there is also licencing/ proprietary architecture sheenanigans concerning MALI, on top of being hardly supported by anybody or anything and opengl/es not actually being totally suited for 3d

So yeah pick your poison, I know I would be running windows7 on the maincomputer if it could support DX12.
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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #4442 on: January 09, 2021, 12:47:24 pm »

But if you can, have an XP, 7 and 10, separately I swear I got enough stuff I can only run on one of them. Recently I tried to set up a virtual box to win98 but I couldn't get past the bootmanager to install it :(, I wanna play safecracker dammit.

Try PCem - it is a full x86 emulator that emulates anything up to a Pentium I (if host computer is fast enough), and runs 98 quite well. A bit of a pain to get running, but really nice once you do.
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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #4443 on: January 09, 2021, 04:35:31 pm »

More than likely, his CD is not bootable.

He should grab a win98 EBD from bootdisks.com, then use it to boot the virtual machine. Use DOS FDISK to set up the partition, and format the volume, then run the installer.
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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #4444 on: January 10, 2021, 10:23:04 am »

Yes I tried PCem before trying virtual box and in both cases it was the windows install "disk" iirc. I might give it another shot one day.



Anyway I'm a bit confused about fans and their voltages etc, and kinda done spending money on experiments. Do all PWM fans support the same voltage range? Should I happen to pick a fan that was intended to go in a normal computer, will it have female ends on the cables (like for a gpio header)?
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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #4445 on: January 10, 2021, 12:32:17 pm »

A PC fan should be either 5v or 12v.  It should say on the sticker.
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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #4446 on: January 10, 2021, 01:27:50 pm »

Yes ok thanks, damn webshops with their confusing filters... Ugh I know for a fact it would be possible to stick it into my old case if I make the middlepart higher by like 2-3 centimeters, if I'm smart I should also be able to have mostly no cables sticking out of rev2.... but damnit one doesn't just get to order cables at the exact right length with really small plugs, or fans with the holes for the screws at special places or stuff like that... And if I go printing a ton of parts to "organize" the inside, the height is gonna evolve into shoebox formfactor and that would just be ridiculous...


And just doing the exact same case with the exact same flaws, except a bit taller, seems stupid and lowballing the whole project, I am so fucking close to actual comfort of use. Fuck guess I'm not done sitting here and just looking at the damn case rev1 and googling for datasheets, holding like cardbox samples against the case.
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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #4447 on: January 13, 2021, 08:28:13 pm »

So, I've had the wildest time trying to install update 20h2 (October Update) for Win10. It usually throws a bluescreen (page fault in nonpaged area) error and then reverts itself. I had a similar issue with a previous update, the solution was to disable my motherboard audio drivers from safe mode, then install further updates, and I would be able to re-enable the drivers without bluescreen. Simple enough.

For 20H2, it tries to install and then reverts the update after bluescreening. However, I had a lot of trouble even getting into safemode. My solution was to use install media to force a safe mode boot after the first bluescreen, but before it restarted and automatically reverted the update. This time, it made things worse. At the login screen, I get the message "there was a problem with your pin". Clicking "enter pin" gives a prompt to download a program from the microsoft store (presumably the login service) which immediately fails. I have not found anyone else on the internet who has encountered this problem. There is NO option to log in with a password instead. I know the password is still tied to the account because I need to use the password for a command line boot, which works. However, I have not been able to find a way to fix the pin problem from the command line. I was able to use bcdedit to get it out of safe mode, but this did not resolve the issue. Now I seemingly have no way of reverting the update (or even checking if the update is actually installed) or logging in, and my options from the login screen or command line are limited.

I also tried a system restore on two system restore points, both of which failed.

So, if anyone knows a way to fix this particular problem, or forcibly create a new login/disable the pin, I'd love it. I do have access to the system files from another operating system.
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