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Re: Dota 2
« Reply #3675 on: October 13, 2013, 02:25:39 pm »

Uh, anyone know a good character to counter Viper? So far, he just overpowers everyone we pick.
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Re: Dota 2
« Reply #3676 on: October 13, 2013, 02:41:11 pm »

Are you talking in laning phase or late game? is he playing mid or wich lane? trilane or dual? He is one of the easiest heroes but he is not THAT good.
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« Reply #3677 on: October 13, 2013, 02:57:17 pm »

I recommend switching to the new thread.

But like I said before. Viper is like Drow or Sniper. He will punish you if you refuse to return the favour every time he harasses you. All these guys have very similar traits in that they have barely any defense of their own and are slow moving. Furthermore, their autoattacks are actually kinda garbage early on, with Viper being such that his orb actually has a cooldown until level 3. So he can only use that poison on you once every three seconds, whereas you can punch him in the face nonstop. His pathetic normal autoattack won't even graze you.

So the key is to harass them back every time they harass you. It's not easy, but if you do it well you can win every trade simply because you do more damage and you have more health + armour. For example, Spirit Breaker has almost double Viper's effective HP and damage at level 1. You just have to be a bit more manly in the lane and punch him in the face.

Also, remember Viper has another cute feature in that he has no form of burst damage to speak of. What this means is that the amount of damage you take in harass is all the damage he can output. So if you're playing someone like Timbersaw or Slardar, it's quite easy to nuke the living crap out of him after you guys trade harass until half HP. He can't do the same to you.

You should also buy a stout shield if you know you'll be laning against Viper if you're melee.

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Re: Dota 2
« Reply #3678 on: October 13, 2013, 08:29:39 pm »

Remember that viper's corrosive skin makes him really annoying to harass. My favorite counters are Timbersaw, since his reactive armor makes him incredibly hard to harass, Razor for static link's ability to completely cripple Viper's auto attacks, or Zeus for massive burst damage to just kill him before he can kill you. (Lots of damage in a few packets is much better than a lot of weak attacks against Viper.)
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Re: Dota 2
« Reply #3679 on: October 13, 2013, 08:41:51 pm »

Remember that viper's corrosive skin makes him really annoying to harass. My favorite counters are Timbersaw, since his reactive armor makes him incredibly hard to harass, Razor for static link's ability to completely cripple Viper's auto attacks, or Zeus for massive burst damage to just kill him before he can kill you. (Lots of damage in a few packets is much better than a lot of weak attacks against Viper.)
You also got Gyro for Rocket Barrage and Flak Cannon also Naix care 0% about Viper just eat him, Tauren Chieftain as well.

Oh yeah and LoA as long as your ult is up he can never kill you.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2013, 08:44:27 pm by Alkhemia »
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Re: Dota 2
« Reply #3680 on: October 13, 2013, 10:00:39 pm »

Can we use DOTA 2 names? I know Elder Titan is Tauren Chieftain and Abaddon is the Lord of Avernus, but I played the original way back when. I don't think everyone reading the thread has.
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« Reply #3681 on: October 13, 2013, 10:28:17 pm »

I still call most of the heroes by the Dota 1 names just a habit I still sometimes use Buriza, Stygian, etc.  :P

what one did you not know I only used ET old name and you know that one.
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Re: Dota 2
« Reply #3682 on: October 13, 2013, 11:50:59 pm »

http://fuckyeahhdota2.tumblr.com/post/63874630907/elijah-woody-dota-1-dota-2-model-and-icon
In case anyone hasn't seen this yet, it's all the dota 2 heroes compared in picture to their dota one selves. Well, not all, but most.
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« Reply #3683 on: October 14, 2013, 12:20:52 pm »

New thread, guys...
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