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Bitharne

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Cave In's
« on: July 27, 2012, 07:46:16 pm »

I looked around but could not find any confirmation on this. But when you perform a cave in, will un-mined ore drop as if mined? Completely vaporize? Or something else entirely? Was looking to make an "outside" dining hall a dozen or so Z-levels down, and don't really wana waste all the marble/dolomite/ore/gems in the column i'm to collapse.

So should I mine it all out and channel out each level? Perhaps, cave in the mined floor tiles afterwords would be faster than channeling each level?

Thanks for the input :)
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Re: Cave In's
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2012, 08:03:59 pm »

It won't drop, that's for sure.

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Re: Cave In's
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2012, 08:18:14 pm »

The ore/stone/gems won't?

Figured that would be the case. Think i'll just cave in each floor after mining it out then.
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Re: Cave In's
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2012, 09:00:55 pm »

Constructed tiles that fall (e.g., block walls or stairs) decompose to the materials they were built from when they land (or as they fall, I can't remember for sure; I just know the block ends up at the bottom, not the wall/floor/stairs/workshop).

When a natural tile (or a cast obsidian block) falls, it does not break apart, but instead stays in its tile as a solid block of natural wall. The natural block will continue falling until it lands on another (anchored) natural block.  It will punch through floors, both constructed and natural, that lack a solid (natural?) tile directly below them, however.

What this means is that if you drop the unmined (not dwarf built) contents of the room a few z-levels, they will still need to be mined out if you wish to make use of them, regardless of what they are made of.
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Re: Cave In's
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012, 09:02:17 pm »

It will punch through floors, both constructed and natural, that lack a solid (natural?) tile directly below them, however.
They just need to be a solid anchored tile. It doesn't matter if the tile that it lands on is natural, constructed, or cast from obsidian.
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Re: Cave In's
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2012, 10:39:08 pm »

Unmined minerals (large clusters, veins, small clusters) should remain fully intact when they fall down, but soil and layer stones will transform into the surrounding layer they land in - if there are multiple soil layers and you drop the upper one, it will transform into the lower one, and if you drop a chunk of chalk down into a schist layer, it will turn into schist.
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Re: Cave In's
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2012, 11:47:03 pm »

Unmined minerals (large clusters, veins, small clusters) should remain fully intact when they fall down, but soil and layer stones will transform into the surrounding layer they land in - if there are multiple soil layers and you drop the upper one, it will transform into the lower one, and if you drop a chunk of chalk down into a schist layer, it will turn into schist.
This part I did not know.  So, you could drop schist into a chalk layer to get more chalk?
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