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Author Topic: Dwarven... "Child Care"  (Read 615640 times)

veok

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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #375 on: December 23, 2011, 05:50:48 pm »

Have we tried stuffing more than one dwarven child in each cell? More crowding, more food needed, but it should solve the mental attribute loss (b/c of communication skills).

It means each child gets one *best* friend, which might be undesirable. (And I think this route practically guarantees legendary social skills)
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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #376 on: December 23, 2011, 06:09:12 pm »

What, you want (future) soldiers to have friends?
Do you know what happens to a dwarf when their friends die? They trigger tantrum spirals, that's what.
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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #377 on: December 24, 2011, 12:30:15 am »

What, you want (future) soldiers to have friends?
Do you know what happens to a dwarf when their friends die? They trigger tantrum spirals, that's what.

Not if your force feed them delicious roasts and alcohol like some vast force-feeding machine ultimately ending in the mass production of the finest dwarf liver pate...i think i'm missing the point.
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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #378 on: December 24, 2011, 02:17:10 am »

Instead of reading through 26 pages, I'm just going to ask:

Has this worked yet for anyone?
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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #379 on: December 24, 2011, 04:20:55 am »

What, you want (future) soldiers to have friends?
Do you know what happens to a dwarf when their friends die? They trigger tantrum spirals, that's what.

Not if your military force has spent their entire lives in a small box constantly full of creatures dying, utterly traumatizing them.
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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #380 on: December 24, 2011, 05:41:14 am »

What, you want (future) soldiers to have friends?
Do you know what happens to a dwarf when their friends die? They trigger tantrum spirals, that's what.

Not if your military force has spent their entire lives in a small box constantly full of creatures dying, utterly traumatizing them.
Well we wouldn't want out soldiers to be mentally healthy* thanks to having company, now would we?

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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #381 on: December 24, 2011, 12:30:09 pm »

Instead of reading through 26 pages, I'm just going to ask:

Has this worked yet for anyone?

Limited success thus far- we've got a proof of concept and some interesting side effects, but nobody has achieved significant stat and skill growth yet.

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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #382 on: December 25, 2011, 05:32:07 am »

Im going to try this but for the first 6 years or so i will have them in a room with automatic spike traps (training speers posibly) so they will gain doging skills befor meating animal.
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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #383 on: December 25, 2011, 09:58:08 am »

Im going to try this but for the first 6 years or so i will have them in a room with automatic spike traps (training speers posibly) so they will gain doging skills befor meating animal.
Probably not going to work, I used a danger room in my 0 metal stoneage fortress and it killed six out of ten dwarves. Without hard armor to cover the torso a training spear eventually bruises a lung and then eventually bruises the other. I imagine it'll just be worse with children.

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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #384 on: December 25, 2011, 10:23:24 am »

Im going to try this but for the first 6 years or so i will have them in a room with automatic spike traps (training speers posibly) so they will gain doging skills befor meating animal.
Probably not going to work, I used a danger room in my 0 metal stoneage fortress and it killed six out of ten dwarves. Without hard armor to cover the torso a training spear eventually bruises a lung and then eventually bruises the other. I imagine it'll just be worse with children.
So in other words... *Taps calculator* around 2-3/10 children will be legendary fighters at adulthood, and around 1-2/10 will have trouble breathing.
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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #385 on: December 26, 2011, 01:49:33 pm »


So in other words... *Taps calculator* around 2-3/10 children will be legendary fighters at adulthood, and around 1-2/10 will have trouble breathing.

I only used that danger room for a minute or so at a time, two bruised lungs causes suffocation very reliably.

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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #386 on: December 26, 2011, 02:47:29 pm »

Im going to try this but for the first 6 years or so i will have them in a room with automatic spike traps (training speers posibly) so they will gain doging skills befor meating animal.
Probably not going to work, I used a danger room in my 0 metal stoneage fortress and it killed six out of ten dwarves. Without hard armor to cover the torso a training spear eventually bruises a lung and then eventually bruises the other. I imagine it'll just be worse with children.
So in other words... *Taps calculator* around 2-3/10 children will be legendary fighters at adulthood, and around 1-2/10 will have trouble breathing.
Don't you mean that around 8-9/10 will have trouble breathing? :D
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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #387 on: December 26, 2011, 04:12:53 pm »

Don't you mean that around 8-9/10 will have trouble breathing? :D
Depending on your point of view, yes.
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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #388 on: December 26, 2011, 05:16:55 pm »

This is basically makeing a mini sparta. I like it.
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Re: Dwarven... "Child Care"
« Reply #389 on: December 26, 2011, 07:10:03 pm »

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but why not train the dogs they were trapped with into war dogs, then assign them to the released warrior?
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