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Drelon

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Artifact/ bismuth pick
« on: September 09, 2011, 10:29:05 am »

My weaponsmith created a bismuth pick in a strange mood. My question now is: would it make sense to give the pick to someone that i want in my military? It an artifact weapon after all. But i dont know the properties of bismuth alone. Help please :)
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Re: Artifact/ bismuth pick
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 10:36:43 am »

Picks use the mining skill for fighting. If you want to train a legendary miner without mining stone, you could just draft them and have them train/sit in the danger room.
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Re: Artifact/ bismuth pick
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2011, 12:00:14 pm »

Drelon, you might want to check out the raws for bismuth versus the weapons-grade metals.  I don't actually know the mechanics of how weapons work (as in, which entry in the metal raws corresponds to the weapon's attack) but from a quick look at the raws, bismuth is an order of magnitude worse than steel in general, though a bit more dense.
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Re: Artifact/ bismuth pick
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 01:34:09 pm »

hmmmm... well i guess i wont use it as a weapon and use some iron weapons instead just to be save
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Re: Artifact/ bismuth pick
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 01:56:19 pm »

Well, you could test it before completely dismissing it.  Change bismuth so that it can be used for weapons, do some arena testing?
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Re: Artifact/ bismuth pick
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 01:59:23 pm »

and the artifact bonus?
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Re: Artifact/ bismuth pick
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 02:56:18 pm »

Could be good in a weapon trap.
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Re: Artifact/ bismuth pick
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 05:09:29 pm »

AFAIK bismuth has the same stats as bronze. Honestly though, I'd just put in in a weapon trap in the dining room.
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Re: Artifact/ bismuth pick
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 05:12:45 pm »

If it has the same stats as bronze, then a bismuth pick is an excellent weapon. Hell, a copper or silver pick is a good weapon. They punch through armor well and can sever things well. Picks are scary good. Only drawback is they it is not considered a military skill.

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Re: Artifact/ bismuth pick
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 05:28:57 pm »

I did slashing/light armor testing for each material. It's all very extensive (took 8 hours) and I consider it to be accurate.
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Bismuth isn't too bad, and in the hands of a skilled miner (plus the artifact bonus), it'll be fine.
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Re: Artifact/ bismuth pick
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2011, 04:16:42 pm »

Ill consider what to do with it. Thanks for all the repiles
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