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Author Topic: Dwarf Fortress meets The Outer Wilds? "Ultima Ratio Regum", v0.10.1 out Feb 2023  (Read 524328 times)

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ďUltima Ratio Regum is one of a few ambitious, long-term projects which I think represent the most exciting things about indie game development, about PC games, and about what technology can do for the games of tomorrow.Ē
- Graham Smith, Rock Paper Shotgun

A roguelike game inspired by the literature of Jorge Borges, Umberto Eco & Neal Stephenson, and the games Dwarf Fortress, The Outer Wilds, and various others.

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Ultima Ratio Regum ("the last argument of kings") is a game designed to combine the massive and varied world of games like Dwarf Fortress or Europa Universalis with the cryptic puzzle-solving and clue following of games like The Outer Wilds and La-Mulana. Set approximately around the Scientific Revolution, the player is tasked with discovering a conspiracy via identifying procedurally-generated clues hidden throughout the world's cultures, religions and societies; the game features extensive procedural generation of everything from tombs and religious altars to (in the future) paintings and sculptures, any or all of which may contain the clues required in a given playthrough. The latest major releases, 0.9 and 0.10, introduce currencies, procedurally-generated items, trade, and ship-board travel. 1.0 is coming soon - watch this space!

































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Re: Ultima Ratio Regum - a 'strategy roguelike' in the making...
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 11:25:27 am »

I already read about this in that thread about DF Adventure mode-like and was immediately hooked on the project! Could I make a small donation?
I'd love to help keep you motivated ^^
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Re: Ultima Ratio Regum - a 'strategy roguelike' in the making...
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 11:26:32 am »

Aw sweeeeeet.

So how much procedural generation is planned for the game, and in what areas?
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 12:29:07 pm »

The game's title has seduced me. You can be sure I'll be testing it
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 12:50:30 pm »

Interesting... I'll definitely be paying attention to this one.
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Re: Ultima Ratio Regum - a 'strategy roguelike' in the making...
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 02:46:04 pm »

This has perked my interest. I await the moment I can create an army of undead and kill everyone eagerly.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2011, 04:05:32 pm »

Any game where you can go from a mercenary/bandit to leader of a demon army sounds fantastic in my book.
But I do have a few questions:
  • Will things like elevation and rain effect combat in the finished version?
  • What kind of command and control do you have of your army? Do you control squads or the whole army at once? Do you issue more general orders like advance/ charge or specific ones such as: move here, dig in, prepare ambush?
  • Will there be stealth?
  • Will there be formations and their inherent complexities or will it be largely skirmishes?
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Re: Ultima Ratio Regum - a 'strategy roguelike' in the making...
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 05:45:00 pm »

I already read about this in that thread about DF Adventure mode-like and was immediately hooked on the project! Could I make a small donation?
I'd love to help keep you motivated ^^

Wow, that's a very generous offer! I shall have to decline - I don't plan to set up any kind of donation thing until URR is much further along. Very nice of you to offer, though : )

So how much procedural generation is planned for the game, and in what areas?

The overwhelming majority of each world will be procedurally generated, along with all the creatures that populate it. This will mean villages, cities, empires etc will be different each game, and therefore what armies you can raise or fight within. I'm hoping to allow a huge variety of different 'types' of army to be generated, too.

The game's title has seduced me. You can be sure I'll be testing it

Excellent! Since 'The Last Argument of Kings' refers, after all, to military force, it seemed an appropriate (and spiffy) title...

Interesting... I'll definitely be paying attention to this one.

Thanks! I'll try and keep things updated : )

This has perked my interest. I await the moment I can create an army of undead and kill everyone eagerly.

Hopefully, before too long, this will actually be an option...

Any game where you can go from a mercenary/bandit to leader of a demon army sounds fantastic in my book.
But I do have a few questions:
  • Will things like elevation and rain effect combat in the finished version?
  • What kind of command and control do you have of your army? Do you control squads or the whole army at once? Do you issue more general orders like advance/ charge or specific ones such as: move here, dig in, prepare ambush?
  • Will there be stealth?
  • Will there be formations and their inherent complexities or will it be largely skirmishes?

1 - weather effects will exist, but - for the time being - there is no 'real' z-axis. However, I am probably going to add elevation in before the first alpha - not in a DF style with arrows, but a lighter colour of ground background depending on how high the ground is. Still deciding on this, basically.
2 - You issue orders to those beneath you, who interpret your orders (hopefully competently) to the rest of the army. You cannot instantly transmit orders - if you want to talk to a commander on the other side of your army, you need to send a runner over there to tell him what to do. The larger your army, the less tactical control you have, but the more strategic control you gain, and vice versa.
3 - Yes! Probably for a focus on ambushes in small groups, or playing on your own. If you are tracking an opposing army, you should be able to lay an ambush for them on a particular battlefield.
4 - Formations is an interesting question. When you deploy onto the battlefield, you will almost certainly be able to pick the initial positions of your squads based on what you know of the area. However, if you are simply moving through an area and get ambushed, say, you'll have much less choice over how you set up before combat begins!
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Re: Ultima Ratio Regum - a 'strategy roguelike' in the making...
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 05:58:34 pm »

I hope this works out! I've seen a bunch of announcements for more strategic roguelikes, but I don't recall any that got to completion.

Also, as another fellow grad student, how are you not feeling super duper guilty about not doing research and programming instead? :P

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 01:30:26 pm »

Thanks! It's the culmination of having wanted to make a game my whole life, so I'm fairly confident I'll be able to see it through. Not that it'll be a short process or anything, though...

Ah, well, fitting in programming around research is proving less tricky than I'd feared. I'm just devoting most days to research, then a day or two per week to programming, plus some evenings. There are times I've been working on something in URR and ignored academia for a bit to get it finished, but the reverse has also happened, so it figure it all balances out! What're you studying?
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 01:42:51 pm »

The game's title has seduced me. You can be sure I'll be testing it

Japan has had a monopoloy in nonsensical titles for toooooo long.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2011, 02:04:15 pm »

This game is my most anticipated roguelike :)
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2011, 02:31:12 pm »

Another game to keep track of. Looking good so far!
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2011, 02:49:15 pm »

Looking forward to the alpha, godspeed and all that. Many ideas in here are ones I've always wanted to see properly implemented (recruitment of any npc, realistic troop command).

On the blog you ask what the alpha should focus most on, Creatures, Combat, AI or UI. I would suggest getting a nice and streamlined UI right from the start. If it's clunky to begin with, it will only get worse (and harder to fix) as new features are added. I think I remember some other strategy roguelike suffering from this particular issue. The other stuff, while perhaps cooler, will doubtlessly continue to expand after the first alpha anyway, so it seems completely understandable to keep it simple for the first release.

Just my thoughts. I'm probably the last person you want to take advice on coding a big project from.

The game's title has seduced me. You can be sure I'll be testing it

Japan has had a monopoloy in nonsensical titles for toooooo long.

It's not really nonsensical at all, just slightly obscure. It makes perfect sense if you know the history of the phrase.
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 03:51:35 pm »

Sounds awesome. A game where I can send out adventurers and can do the adventuring if I want or don't want to is something I have dreamed of.
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