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Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« on: October 27, 2011, 06:28:35 pm »

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The last thing I got to was getting the historical dwarven vampires from world gen to come as migrants on occasion. Next up will be getting them to feed. This will leave one of your own dwarves routinely doing troubling things to the rest of your population, without you knowing immediately who is responsible. In order to make this a fun thing rather than an annoying thing, we're going to revamp the justice system a bit so that you can have crimes that have been committed (in the Justice screen, say) where the perpetrator is not known. In this case, the plan is to then have a witness to a bloodfeeding be able to report that to a guard/sheriff/etc., and then that'll be available for you when you decide on somebody to accuse/arrest/punish. You'll be able to accuse the wrong dwarf, and we might have the vampire or grudge-holding dwarves level false accusations that'll muddy the witness accounts a bit. It should be entertaining once it is tweaked and tested, but first I need to get the guts of it in.
Not sure how many of you pay attention to the main page, but this came up and I had to change my pants.  This is incredible...

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... Vampires that are hiding their identity in your fortress will intentionally walk at normal speeds and their historical kill lists will be hidden, although you might spot them running fast if they are in your military and fighting with an opponent. ...
Vampires from legends/worldgen will appear at your fortress disguised as migrants.  They will be difficult to spot, but will have a few tells to them.

Abuse it.  Discuss.

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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 06:30:32 pm »

All-vampire military squad.  They live in their own isolated fortress, and are only let out during sieges.  You'll need to drop the occasional lyemaker or animal dissector into them to keep them fed.  That's the most obvious idea.
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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 06:36:33 pm »

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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2011, 06:52:34 pm »

When dead dwarves start showing up I'll do the following:
-START A WITCH HUNT!!
-Turn off all boring labor on my new vampire king(or queen)
-Give him the best room possible
-TURN HIM IN TO A KILLING MACHINE
-Set a new world record in kill count :>
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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2011, 06:57:20 pm »

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No. I refuse to let this happen.
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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2011, 07:00:30 pm »

NOBODY SUSPECTS THE DWARVEN INQUISITION!!

KILL THE VAMPIRE, LEST THEY TAINT US WITH ELVEN BLOOD!

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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2011, 07:04:11 pm »

The only way I can see myself weaponizing the vampires would be some sort of last resort fuck all tactic.

I would probably have all of my vampires locked in room behind a floodgate somewhere, because I would feel bad about killing off my own citizens(since I'm too goddamn nice)just because some undead asshole mistook my fortress for a Home Town Buffet. And as some attacking force razes their home, I would let them all loose to roam free in the bloodshed of the the fort's final moments.

"Sir! The enemy approaches! our defenses are shattered, and the militia is now nothing more than a pile of mutilated corpses lining the halls...what shall we do?"

"*sigh* Release the vampires."

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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2011, 07:12:29 pm »

The only way I can see myself weaponizing the vampires would be some sort of last resort fuck all tactic.

I would probably have all of my vampires locked in room behind a floodgate somewhere, because I would feel bad about killing off my own citizens(since I'm too goddamn nice)just because some undead asshole mistook my fortress for a Home Town Buffet. And as some attacking force razes their home, I would let them all loose to roam free in the bloodshed of the the fort's final moments.

"Sir! The enemy approaches! our defenses are shattered, and the militia is now nothing more than a pile of mutilated corpses lining the halls...what shall we do?"

"*sigh* Press the button."

"Sir, you mean, THE button?!"

"Yes. May Urist have mercy on us all."

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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 07:16:08 pm »

And yet, the vampires ARE your citizens!  Do we cast out our own simply because they are different or suffer a medical condition?  ...wait, nevermind, that doesn't work here.

I plan on making sure all my vampire citizens are well taken care of.  Or, dead at the bottom of the well.

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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2011, 07:17:48 pm »

The only way I can see myself weaponizing the vampires would be some sort of last resort fuck all tactic.

I would probably have all of my vampires locked in room behind a floodgate somewhere, because I would feel bad about killing off my own citizens(since I'm too goddamn nice)just because some undead asshole mistook my fortress for a Home Town Buffet. And as some attacking force razes their home, I would let them all loose to roam free in the bloodshed of the the fort's final moments.

"Sir! The enemy approaches! our defenses are shattered, and the militia is now nothing more than a pile of mutilated corpses lining the halls...what shall we do?"

"*sigh* Release the vampires."
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And yet, the vampires ARE your citizens!  Do we cast out our own simply because they are different or suffer a medical condition?  ...wait, nevermind, that doesn't work here.

I plan on making sure all my vampire citizens are well taken care of.  Or, dead at the bottom of the well.
I'm going to have a vampire ward, and feed crippled goblins to them  ;D

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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2011, 07:19:05 pm »

I don't know, I really like the idea of having this small little hut where the dwarf vampire lives... Where Dwarf Children (that are not snatched or gobbled up by two humped camels of course) mysteriously disappear....

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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2011, 07:22:49 pm »

Vampires don't live in huts.  These are dwarf vampires.  They live in caves.  In little nooks they've carved out or built from mushroom stalks.

...vampires live in underground huts.

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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2011, 07:23:18 pm »

Hmmm. I think i'd make a suicide military penance squad for the vampires. After one achieved enough it would be allowed to die by starvation or something.
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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2011, 07:31:36 pm »

And yet, the vampires ARE your citizens!  Do we cast out our own simply because they are different or suffer a medical condition?  ...wait, nevermind, that doesn't work here.

I plan on making sure all my vampire citizens are well taken care of.  Or, dead at the bottom of the well.

True, but I'm presuming that vampire dwarves become a menace to the fortress and its inhabitants, in order to balance out the fact that they're stronger and faster than normal. Things like sleeping for long periods of time, endangering the other dwarves' lives, and possibly scaring them, which would prevent them from getting things done.
Meaning I would be torn between not wanting to kill my little bearded bloodsuckers, but also not wanting to look around my fortress and realize that half the population is sleeping in the burial chamber.

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Re: Weaponize This (devlog quote)
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2011, 07:36:47 pm »

The choice is easy then, your dwarves are infinite, your vampires are infinite, but your fortress....


KILL THEM ALL.

WITH THE LEMONS.
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