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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2011, 08:26:22 pm »

Terraria's a quaint little game that's basically 2d minecraft with a greater focus on fighting. Hell, it even has multiple bosses and rarespawns. It's probably my least favorite out of the DF>Minecraft>Terraria grouping for me, but I still play it occasionally with my girlfriend. I'd have to say it's even more accessible than minecraft since it has set goals. It can't hold your interest for too long, but if you see it on a steam sale for 3 bucks or whatever you may as well pick it up if you have someone you want to get into games.
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2011, 10:01:20 pm »

Huh, I had no idea about Terraria. When I saw screens I thought it was just another side scrolling shooter. Not that that makes me want to play it.

Dwarf Fortress has caused me to begin studying geology. While that might not seem like much, I'm 31 and already have a college degree, so I'm just learning it for fun because DF just sparked that in me.

When I'm at work, I design optimal workshop/stockpile layouts and pixel art designs (for great hall flooring) on graph paper.

I have an entire binder full of printed magmawiki articles.

I do appreciate however all you all have said about minecraft. As I have never played it I just knew it by it's "theme" (mining and building megaprojects it seemed to me) and while I knew it lacked the complexity of DF I was not aware (aside from graphics) there were so many fundamental differences.

Nor am I saying DF players are "better" than minecraft players. My marine analogy was just to describe how to really enjoy DF you have to work hard with it, stick it out, put up with FUN, and revel in all that it is (i.e. complexity) while popular AAA games these days (CoD, Modern Warfare) are so brainless there are videos on youtube of people winning levels without even shooting their gun at enemies, such that it's basically a cinematic experience pretending to be a game. We are more patient, which in this day and age is even more rare than intelligence.

The funny thing is the things I would add to DF make it MORE complex (More races, underground civs with whole histories in worldgen, more kinds of stone/ore/metal - there are probably already enough gems). I'm kinda sad Toady is focusing on adventure mode right now because I think the caverns could be really fleshed out. Oh, and I long for the day when computers are good enough so that we can have forts with thousands of dwarves and actually raise armies (20-30 dwarves does not an army make) and take the fight to the bloody goblins!
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2011, 10:17:33 pm »

Oh, and I long for the day when computers are good enough so that we can have forts with thousands of dwarves and actually raise armies (20-30 dwarves does not an army make) and take the fight to the bloody goblins!

At this time, the army arc is little more than a tiny speck on the edge of the horizon. Is it a tree? A large rock perhaps? Until we're close enough, no one can tell. But rest assured, we'll get there someday.

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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2011, 12:04:33 am »

they just want a fine set of graphics to admire
In the topic titled "Gah! Minecraft. Rage!".

It may described as "every uncomplicated, interesting game (like tetris, minecraft) have small chance for turning into a hit of year. Overcomplicated games WTFisthis generators (like NetHack, DF) have zero chance for turning into a hit of year."
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2011, 04:31:26 am »

Oh god! He linked TVtropes....
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2011, 04:43:16 am »

I enjoy DF, Minecraft, Terraria, and JADE and [whatever else] for different or similar reasons.  While I am entirely capable of seeing some lines of comparison between these various titles, my worldview has me seeing each one independently, without having to juxtapose it with something similar or different, causing me to see the merits and values inherent to each clearly and without bias.

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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2011, 04:57:16 am »

I'm just guessing the OP hasn't seen the 15241 post Minecraft thread we have down in OG then.
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2011, 07:18:40 am »

I'm just guessing the OP hasn't seen the 15241 post Minecraft thread we have down in OG then.
It wouldn't be the first time that an Upper-Boarder never went below the DF GD.

Also, this is one of the most over-discussed topics ever.
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2011, 08:28:10 am »

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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2011, 08:35:08 am »

There's always been a divide between the upper board and lower boards.
Eh, flamebait.
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2011, 09:55:45 am »

...popular AAA games these days (CoD, Modern Warfare)...

To be precise that would actually be CoD: Modern Warfare. You were probably thinking about CoD and BF, but for whatever reason listed CoD and MW as if they were two different series.
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2011, 12:57:13 pm »

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Yep. I'm not really in any class, as I go from General Discussion to DF General discussion, rarely poking my head outside of that area. the only exception would be the forum for the first Armok game, but that's frozen.
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2011, 02:08:15 pm »

I only visit DF General Discussion, Dwarf Mode Discussion and the Swordthunders reclaim thread. Yeah, I'm an Upper-Boarder.
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2011, 02:23:13 pm »

*insert join us meme here*

Typical lower board response to such statements.
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Re: Gah! Minecraft. Rage!
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2011, 02:24:32 pm »

When I posted this it was my first time on this board (General Discussion that is, not the DF boards in general). I generally stay in Gameplay Questions and Dwarf Mode Discussion, as that actually helps me with the game.

I've never been one to talk about things other than game-related items on a game specific message board.

So I'm a low total post count, upper boarder. I'm the unwashed masses.
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