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One or the other... vote once for #1 and once for #2.

#1: Put the Alarm Siren in the Military Garrison, it fits and is one buildings less.
#1: Keep the Alarm Siren seperate, I want to have it near my other levers.
#2: I have traded with Gnomes, build Artificer and Weather Control Station.
#2: I have NOT traded with Gnomes, did not have the chance to build their buildings.

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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2d - Alchemy/Chemistry Poll
« Reply #8415 on: January 12, 2013, 11:41:17 am »

It does and its great

thanks, somehow i am not able to show the tables's borders...

I think ill finish this "doc" so i force myself to read every bit of Meph's Manual wich is huge!...

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1) Pre-gen embark profiles: (question) Do dwarfs have custom made stats? (Strentgh, agility...)
2) Why now my Dwarf Therapist can not read, pre-gen embark dwarfs's profiles before embark?
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2d - Alchemy/Chemistry Poll
« Reply #8416 on: January 12, 2013, 11:58:27 am »


Masterwork Dwarf Fortress V.2e

NOTES: HARDER MINING IS REALLY HARD NOW. Yes, I am yelling this in the hope that people take heed. Your miners can essentially be ambushed now, by weak elemtental-wraiths living in the rock, by balrogs (rare) and soggoths (rare). This means you should bring warbeasts and military while mining. I know that many people will turn this off, because it does make the game harder and is unusual. Feedback about this feature is most welcome. Since undigable rock and the coal-dust and warpstone were not quite successful in making harder mining interesting, I hope this try does better. ;)

Utilities:
  • Large Address Aware Patcher - Use up to 4gb ram.
  • Updated Therapist to 19.3 - splinter'z
  • Updated extra dfhack plugins - falconne's

GUI:
  • LazyNewPacks Laptop Keybinds included.
  • Harder smelting is now harder - only 50% ore output.
  • Harder farming is now harder - 2 seasons grow time for aboveground, 4 seasons for underground plants.
  • Harder mining is now way harder - You have to protect your miners from Rockwraiths, Balrogs and Soggoths.
  • Grazing - Adds grazing back to a large selection of mammals.

Manual:
  • Updated to the current version.
  • Added Orc Fortress manual - alpha version, done by smakemupagus

Misc Features, Fixes and Balancing:
  • Dog is back.
  • Automatons survive worldgens better.
  • Stranglers and Warelephants no longer bring weapons.
  • Fixed Ram and Stake upgrades
  • Fixed papyrus making
  • Fixed resurrection spam in good regions
  • Added two creatures that can be hived: Bane spider (greenskin bane venom) and cochineal (carmine dye)
  • Plants are now sorted alphabetically
  • Added 5 new blueprints. Colosseum, Machine Factory, Bifrost Forge, Great Magma Forge and Warpstone Lab.
  • Golem hearts from carvans are now more expensive and are found in the "misc" trading section.
  • Turrets leave clockwork parts upon death. With those you can build new turrets.
  • Minor tweaks to worldgen files - glacier world has higher chance of genning. (still takes some tries, no idea why)
  • Added all seeds to vanilla plants that had none. You can now farm 6 more plants.
  • Updated Orc Fortress to 0.22 - done by smakemupagus.


Three harder mining creatures:
  • All rocks/ores have a chance to spawn 1-3 rock/metalwraiths.
  • In igneous-intrusive, the deepest layer, you might hit a balrog or soggoth.
  • You miner will transform, drop his gear and stand still for a time (shocked and motionless from fear)
  • Then the creature will spawn, with a little delay, to help your miner to get away.
  • Rockwraiths are weak, even copper kills them easily. Punches/Kicks wont help though.
  • Metalwraiths are slightly stronger, you need bronze or iron to kill them.
  • Balrogs are like little megabeats, send your military.
  • Soggots need special tactics. They multiply when an apendage gets cut off. If you send your military, you get overrun.
  • Use cave-ins, magma, fire, ice, obsidian, wall-ins, or kill it otherwise instantly.

Orc Fortress:
  • Updated, with many new reactions and features.
  • Now with included manual.
  • If you did not try it before, try it now. It is a major mod all by itself.

Kobold Camp:
  • Kobolds now have a full spriteset with all professions -thanks to Solifuge
  • This is it for now... next version will have improvements on the kobolds




Full Changelog V.2e
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2d - Alchemy/Chemistry Poll
« Reply #8417 on: January 12, 2013, 12:01:29 pm »

@Umbra: Nope, artifact instruments are just as useless as they always are. ^^

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1) Pre-gen embark profiles: (question) Do dwarfs have custom made stats? (Strentgh, agility...)
2) Why now my Dwarf Therapist can not read, pre-gen embark dwarfs's profiles before embark?
1. Different dwarven castes have different stats, but nothing is custom made for the profiles. Castes are assigned at random.
2. I dont know? Can it usually read dwarves pre-embark? Asking in the Therapist thread would be beast.
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2e - Update: Increasing difficulty. And Orcs.
« Reply #8418 on: January 12, 2013, 12:16:17 pm »

The harder mining sounds AWESOME. Hope i can chime in a test fort tonight!
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2d - Alchemy/Chemistry Poll
« Reply #8419 on: January 12, 2013, 12:54:48 pm »

Harder farming is now harder - 2 seasons grow time for aboveground, 4 seasons for underground plants.
Any chance we could get a option for the old Harder Farming as well as this new !!Harder Farming!!?
I like the old one, it did not require excessive micromanagement and did not create a extreme surplus of food for me unlike vanilla farming.
This seems like it might require too much !!micromanagement!! and cause starvation issues when you first embark.

Also I did not see this in the changelog
Found a bug in the Creature Research Lab. Even though I have 7 gold bags of loot, the lab won't let me open them. This seems to be the cause in reaction_Masterwork.txt:

[REAGENT:A:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_LOOT:INORGANIC:GOLD]

should be

[REAGENT:A:1:TOY:ITEM_TOY_LOOT:INORGANIC:GOLD]

according to item_toy_masterwork.txt:

[ITEM_TOY:ITEM_TOY_LOOT]
[NAME:bag of loot:bags of loot]
[HARD_MAT]

Edit: After a second look it appears you have entries for the bag of loot as both a Tool and a Toy. but only the Toy version seems to drop. Is this intentional?
did you fix it?

The new Linux version will come after I build the new Therapist for it.

Now I have to decide if I play my old fort or make a new one.
The Orcs are being lazy with their siege in my v2d fort, they have moved about 20 squares from the edge and stopped to stare at the lungfish for three seasons.
They even let me build a second much larger retaining wall around my first retaining wall without bothering my dwarves.
I would have attacked them but they are ~90% ranged units and this map only has copper and yet to be discovered wolfram.

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1) Pre-gen embark profiles: (question) Do dwarfs have custom made stats? (Strentgh, agility...)
2) Why now my Dwarf Therapist can not read, pre-gen embark dwarfs's profiles before embark?
2. I dont know? Can it usually read dwarves pre-embark? Asking in the Therapist thread would be beast.
Therapist has been able to do this for a while but I do think it was not able to do that originally.
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I think that might be one of the most dwarfen contraptions I've ever seen the blueprints of.
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2e - Update: Increasing difficulty. And Orcs.
« Reply #8420 on: January 12, 2013, 01:09:54 pm »

Even more difficulity! Heck yeah!  :)
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2e - Update: Increasing difficulty. And Orcs.
« Reply #8421 on: January 12, 2013, 01:12:34 pm »

The farming is less micromanagement then the normal vanilla df farming. Because its standardized, all seasons below ground (no micromangement at all) 2 seasons to plant above ground (spring, summer). It does produce way less, but then again no one uses fertilizer, and this might chance. But between farming fields, breeding animals, eggs, butchering invaders, getting food from inorganics (cave fungus and living rock), fishing, hunting, fish-pond, praying for food, caravans and the Nofood/nodrink effects from good biomes or special songs from the music stage... I would say you dont have to starve, if you dont want to.

Kobold loot has been fixed in V.2d. Thats why its not in the Changelog for V.2e. It already works.

Orcs have the sieger tag, they will wait 1-3 months before they might attack. Thats by design, same AI as humans have. Blocks trading and surface access.
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2e - Update: Increasing difficulty. And Orcs.
« Reply #8422 on: January 12, 2013, 01:14:06 pm »

The farming is less micromanagement then the normal vanilla df farming. Because its standardized, all seasons below ground (no micromangement at all) 2 seasons to plant above ground (spring, summer). It does produce way less, but then again no one uses fertilizer, and this might chance. But between farming fields, breeding animals, eggs, butchering invaders, getting food from inorganics (cave fungus and living rock), fishing, hunting, fish-pond, praying for food, caravans and the Nofood/nodrink effects from good biomes or special songs from the music stage... I would say you dont have to starve, if you dont want to.
I can't say I really agree with that, some of those are too much micromanagement (breeding for food, eggs) or are situational (above ground farming, invaders, fishing, good biome effects, hunting in evil biomes).
Your description in the update post also make is sound like it took 4 seasons for underground corps to grow not that they are plantable year round.
I still expect there to be problems at embark, there is no reason for a established fort to starve to death though.

Kobold loot has been fixed in V.2d. Thats why its not in the Changelog for V.2e. It already works.
It is still broken for me in v2d.

Orcs have the sieger tag, they will wait 1-3 months before they might attack. Thats by design, same AI as humans have. Blocks trading and surface access.
They have been there for about 9 months.
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« Reply #8423 on: January 12, 2013, 01:26:12 pm »

some stuff from V.2d
- Magma Gunsmith produces Steel Mechanisms without needing anything
- Drow Caravan had multiple Bloodsteel Golemhearts for 240 (could be fixed)
- Fortress Defense Minotaur Thiefs can destroy buildings during their stealth and if spotted just run into your base

also the brackets around exceptional and masterful items are the same
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2e - Update: Increasing difficulty. And Orcs.
« Reply #8424 on: January 12, 2013, 01:39:54 pm »

2d had an issue where I could "Copy Magma Armory Blueprints" without any original Blueprint. [Therefore, free magma armory blueprints] Didn't see that in the changelog for 2e, and there's some other fudged reactions that I can't really find out what is wrong, such as making Bronze.

Copper, tin bars sitting next to my smelters and I haven't been able to even choose making bronze. On any furnace/smelter. I havent been able to make bronze in a long time thanks to the reaction simply not working. Wish I could. Iron blows. I'd rather not be forced to Manager-poof the jobs into existence.

And I swear I never had these issues in previous versions of DF. The whole reactions not working randomly is a newer kind of bug. One that especially tends to come out in MWDF for me. Any kind of mod-reaction workarounds? I could just make a new bronze reaction, but that seem a bit.. Gamey.
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2e - Update: Increasing difficulty. And Orcs.
« Reply #8425 on: January 12, 2013, 01:52:36 pm »

Glacial has gone 300 years successfully. Automatons did not survive, but others did.
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2e - Update: Increasing difficulty. And Orcs.
« Reply #8426 on: January 12, 2013, 02:14:29 pm »

@bigD145: Good to know, thanks for the heads up.

@Mictlantecuhtli: Dont know about the bronze... cold hammering and the blast furnaces take ore, while the metallurgist and crucible take bars, the reactions look good, so I dont know why you havent been able to select bronze.

Magma Armory Blueprint is fixed now (right now, not in the release) there was a simply "B" missing from Lueprint. ^^

Did you check this ?
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Workshop reactions are red, even with all the materials available.
Bug:
If a workshop is in a burrow, even if the burrow is inactive, then it accepts only materials within the same burrow.
Solution:
Make a bigger burrow including the materials, or keep the material stockpiles within the same burrow. Or delete the burrow.

@Puddingkuchen: Wow, that steel mechanism thing must have been there for... about 9months maybe? The reagent name was missing, simply adding :A to it, and all is good. Thanks for that report. :) Golem hearts are more expensive now, as I posted. Fortress Defense races do stuff by design, I dont think that building-destroying minotaurs are a flaw.  If I could edit the font, I would change it. It uses the same thing for forbidden items, which is troublesome to me. I have to look into this.
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« Reply #8427 on: January 12, 2013, 02:19:15 pm »

Naw, I don't even use burrows [except in some emergencies, then I erase them after]. It's just weird, I've been able to cold hammer tin, copper-bearing stones, never been able to make bronze. Nor with smelted bars. It's not worked for a long time for me, actually. It kind of bothers me now since I want Deepbronze. I'll see what I can do to try and make it work, you do have plenty of reactions to mess with anyways.
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Re: ☼MASTERWORK-DF☼ V.2e - Update: Increasing difficulty. And Orcs.
« Reply #8428 on: January 12, 2013, 02:26:49 pm »

@Mictlantechuhtli --

Another work around is to try having the manager run the reaction.  The bug that Meph refers to has something to do with pathfinding and so it correlated to burrows, but sometimes it happens without burrows too.

Of course it's possible there's a bug in the reaction, but this one is pretty simple and I don't see anything wrong with it

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« Reply #8429 on: January 12, 2013, 02:34:49 pm »

I checked all four bronze reactions, they are correct. But if you want Deepbronze, the only way to get it is by sending expeditions... you cant manufacture it. I added it, because suddenly there it was in the forge screen, Deepbronze... It is an addition from Orc Fortress, I didnt really know what to do with it for the dwarves, so I made it a little easter-egg-like material that they can find on expeditions.

@smake: I assume its the Elder Scrolls dwemer material? (since your custom deepbronze items have that theme...)
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