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American Election Megathread - It's Over
scriver:
--- Quote from: SalmonGod on July 19, 2012, 11:45:00 pm ---
--- Quote from: Prometheusmfd on July 19, 2012, 10:22:05 pm ---Any company worth its salt with a legitimately limited resource behind its supply (something the human race will not experience in our lifetimes, I assure you) they will do all they can to ensure that they can keep afloat. Generally, this results in finding the next suitable resource (such as nuclear power rather than fossil fuels), or remaking the resource (such as replanting trees with logging).
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And you did a great job of illustrating the tunnel-vision short-sightedness of business perspective on sustainability. Yeah, a logging business will plant new trees to ensure the long-term sustainability of their business. They are ensuring the sustainability of the one single resource that relates to their business, while completely ignoring that a tree farm that gets regularly leveled is not a natural ecosystem. That logging business does nothing to renew the resources that get destroyed besides their trees. A tree farm hardly participates in the natural health of the planet.
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To further explain, what SalmonGod is saying is that even though the company replants trees, just replanting does not renew the nutrients in the ground which the trees need to absorb to be able to grow, leading to a slow defertilisation of the land, leading to less and less trees being able to grow there, leading to worse and worse business for the logging company. In short, it's a chop-and-burn philosophy, if not as extreme as actual chop-and-burning.
Leafsnail:
Global fishing would similarly risk obliterating fish stocks without regulation to limit their catches.
SalmonGod:
--- Quote from: scriver on July 20, 2012, 06:19:07 am ---
--- Quote from: SalmonGod on July 19, 2012, 11:45:00 pm ---
--- Quote from: Prometheusmfd on July 19, 2012, 10:22:05 pm ---Any company worth its salt with a legitimately limited resource behind its supply (something the human race will not experience in our lifetimes, I assure you) they will do all they can to ensure that they can keep afloat. Generally, this results in finding the next suitable resource (such as nuclear power rather than fossil fuels), or remaking the resource (such as replanting trees with logging).
--- End quote ---
And you did a great job of illustrating the tunnel-vision short-sightedness of business perspective on sustainability. Yeah, a logging business will plant new trees to ensure the long-term sustainability of their business. They are ensuring the sustainability of the one single resource that relates to their business, while completely ignoring that a tree farm that gets regularly leveled is not a natural ecosystem. That logging business does nothing to renew the resources that get destroyed besides their trees. A tree farm hardly participates in the natural health of the planet.
--- End quote ---
To further explain, what SalmonGod is saying is that even though the company replants trees, just replanting does not renew the nutrients in the ground which the trees need to absorb to be able to grow, leading to a slow defertilisation of the land, leading to less and less trees being able to grow there, leading to worse and worse business for the logging company. In short, it's a chop-and-burn philosophy, if not as extreme as actual chop-and-burning.
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True, though I was more referring to the fact that land is no longer habitable by wildlife as it once was. A tree farm is not a forest. It's an artificial space. We're in the midst of a mass extinction, the most rapid the planet has ever seen, and habitat destruction is the #1 cause. Cutting down a forest and replacing it with a tree farm is a prime example of habitat destruction.
You've also got to think what happens if someone new wants to get into the logging business. They can't go and cut down some other company's tree farm. They have to get access to their own natural forest, cut it down, and plant their own tree farm.
MetalSlimeHunt:
--- Quote from: SalmonGod on July 20, 2012, 07:34:04 am ---You've also got to think what happens if someone new wants to get into the logging business. They can't go and cut down some other company's tree farm. They have to get access to their own natural forest, cut it down, and plant their own tree farm.
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Note to self: Buy failing tree farms, rent out space to fledgling logging companies for exorbitant rates. Include contractual loyalty standards and GM patent enforcement to keep market cornered until total ecological collapse. Build spaceship and go live on Mars.
RedKing:
--- Quote from: MetalSlimeHunt on July 20, 2012, 07:58:56 am ---
--- Quote from: SalmonGod on July 20, 2012, 07:34:04 am ---You've also got to think what happens if someone new wants to get into the logging business. They can't go and cut down some other company's tree farm. They have to get access to their own natural forest, cut it down, and plant their own tree farm.
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Note to self: Buy failing tree farms, rent out space to fledgling logging companies for exorbitant rates. Include contractual loyalty standards and GM patent enforcement to keep market cornered until total ecological collapse. Build spaceship and go live on Mars.
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*ring ring* Yes? Sure, hold please.
Hey, it's Mitt Romney's campaign team, they want to hire you as their economics advisor. :p
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