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Author Topic: American Election Megathread - It's Over  (Read 700465 times)

EnigmaticHat

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7950 on: November 04, 2012, 05:18:04 pm »

I'm definitely betting on some sort of recount shenanigans going on, ala Romney.

I'm betting tallys won't match exit polls in areas with machines owned by the Romney family...

Gah, that thing where Romney has investments in the company that runs voting machines in Ohio terrifies me.  If we have another Florida, I'm going to start worrying about how many consecutive presidents the Republicans could get into office with this sort of trickery. 
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7951 on: November 04, 2012, 05:28:24 pm »

If Colorado's results make no sense guys, it's actually correct.

I mentioned it before that my State is a little wierd. It was dismissed because "so is every other state" (though no other state I can think of has three different distinct regional zones with entirely different and opposing base economies with their own distinctive shifts and views between urban and rural in each region). It also has something about it...
Pot Legalization.

It's a chance to stick it to the Federal Government to some, a right to choose healthcare for others, and something fun to do for others yet again. It's got a lot of support, and a lot of opposition (polls project legalization in Colorado.)
Why does this matter? Because it's a known fact in Colorado that Obama is Anti-pot. So..... Some of my Dem friends are voting Libertarian.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7952 on: November 04, 2012, 05:47:42 pm »

Kon, don't take it badly or anything, but your psots about Clinton's deficit (Or your tone rather) remind me of this:
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My belief is that oil and gas prices are almost exclusively due to price and demand.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7953 on: November 04, 2012, 05:49:17 pm »

To whoever is about to post "Kon, you completely missed the point, this has nothing to do with gas prices", bear in mind that it's as obvious to everyone else as it is to you.  There, I just saved you the trouble.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7954 on: November 04, 2012, 05:57:54 pm »

Actually Kon, there are graphs showing that pump prices for oil have little to do with oil production, and everything to do with speculators in the futures / commodities markets. This article is about how Wall Street artificially skyrocketed food prices during the "food crisis", which was neither a crisis of supply or demand, but a crisis of a paper futures trading bubble. The oil price spike is closely related:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/04/27/how_goldman_sachs_created_the_food_crisis
http://advisoranalyst.com/glablog/2012/05/28/the-connection-between-commodity-indices-and-oil-prices/
« Last Edit: November 04, 2012, 06:01:09 pm by Reelya »
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7955 on: November 04, 2012, 06:03:01 pm »

Actually Kon, there are graphs showing that pump prices for oil have little to do with oil production, and everything to do with speculators in the futures / commodities markets. This article is about how Wall Street artificially skyrocketed food prices during the "food crisis", which was neither a crisis of supply or demand, but a crisis of a paper futures trading bubble. The oil price spike is closely related:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/04/27/how_goldman_sachs_created_the_food_crisis
http://advisoranalyst.com/glablog/2012/05/28/the-connection-between-commodity-indices-and-oil-prices/
Shit like this makes me want to punch professional investors in their faces.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7956 on: November 04, 2012, 06:03:36 pm »

Actually Kon, there are graphs showing that pump prices for oil have little to do with oil production, and everything to do with speculators in the futures / commodities markets. This article is about how Wall Street artificially skyrocketed food prices during the "food crisis", which was neither a crisis of supply or demand, but a crisis of a paper futures trading bubble. The oil price spike is closely related:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/04/27/how_goldman_sachs_created_the_food_crisis
http://advisoranalyst.com/glablog/2012/05/28/the-connection-between-commodity-indices-and-oil-prices/
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7957 on: November 04, 2012, 06:05:47 pm »

Ignore lists.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7958 on: November 04, 2012, 06:09:06 pm »

Actually Kon, there are graphs showing that pump prices for oil have little to do with oil production, and everything to do with speculators in the futures / commodities markets. This article is about how Wall Street artificially skyrocketed food prices during the "food crisis", which was neither a crisis of supply or demand, but a crisis of a paper futures trading bubble. The oil price spike is closely related:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/04/27/how_goldman_sachs_created_the_food_crisis
http://advisoranalyst.com/glablog/2012/05/28/the-connection-between-commodity-indices-and-oil-prices/
Shit like this makes me want to punch professional investors in their faces.
It'd be better If I could get my hands on Banana futures.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7959 on: November 04, 2012, 06:14:54 pm »

Actually Kon, there are graphs showing that pump prices for oil have little to do with oil production, and everything to do with speculators in the futures / commodities markets. This article is about how Wall Street artificially skyrocketed food prices during the "food crisis", which was neither a crisis of supply or demand, but a crisis of a paper futures trading bubble. The oil price spike is closely related:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/04/27/how_goldman_sachs_created_the_food_crisis
http://advisoranalyst.com/glablog/2012/05/28/the-connection-between-commodity-indices-and-oil-prices/
Shit like this makes me want to punch professional investors in their faces.
It'd be better If I could get my hands on Banana futures.
Banana futures...or bananas from the future?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7960 on: November 04, 2012, 06:26:02 pm »

I'm learning new things from arguments with Kon.

The problem is, some of you guys are letting it get personal. Someone's refusal to recognize simple facts  does not make your statements worthless, or justify personal attacks. As for his insultive behavior, might I suggest thicker skin? It is a good thing if the deliberately and willingly clueless find what you have to say as silly.

But for providing the info to the troll, it's like people who reply to requests for information to "search more". I use forum searches and see lots of instructions to do so with little of whatever I am looking for. It's nice to provide information for others, even if it goes nowhere with the one who sparked it.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7961 on: November 04, 2012, 08:14:41 pm »

Actually Kon, there are graphs showing that pump prices for oil have little to do with oil production, and everything to do with speculators in the futures / commodities markets. This article is about how Wall Street artificially skyrocketed food prices during the "food crisis", which was neither a crisis of supply or demand, but a crisis of a paper futures trading bubble. The oil price spike is closely related:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/04/27/how_goldman_sachs_created_the_food_crisis
http://advisoranalyst.com/glablog/2012/05/28/the-connection-between-commodity-indices-and-oil-prices/

Yet speculators don't have an infinite amount of resources. Goldman would eventually become bankrupt were they literally attempting to go against reality.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7962 on: November 04, 2012, 08:15:30 pm »

I'm learning new things from arguments with Kon.

The problem is, some of you guys are letting it get personal. Someone's refusal to recognize simple facts  does not make your statements worthless, or justify personal attacks. As for his insultive behavior, might I suggest thicker skin? It is a good thing if the deliberately and willingly clueless find what you have to say as silly.

But for providing the info to the troll, it's like people who reply to requests for information to "search more". I use forum searches and see lots of instructions to do so with little of whatever I am looking for. It's nice to provide information for others, even if it goes nowhere with the one who sparked it.

I regret that I initially responded to insults with insults. I should not have done that. More recently I have been careful not to be disrespectful toward those who are being disrespectful toward me.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7963 on: November 04, 2012, 08:45:57 pm »

I'm learning new things from arguments with Kon.

The problem is, some of you guys are letting it get personal. Someone's refusal to recognize simple facts  does not make your statements worthless, or justify personal attacks. As for his insultive behavior, might I suggest thicker skin? It is a good thing if the deliberately and willingly clueless find what you have to say as silly.

But for providing the info to the troll, it's like people who reply to requests for information to "search more". I use forum searches and see lots of instructions to do so with little of whatever I am looking for. It's nice to provide information for others, even if it goes nowhere with the one who sparked it.

I regret that I initially responded to insults with insults. I should not have done that. More recently I have been careful not to be disrespectful toward those who are being disrespectful toward me.
I don't think you're a troll, I just think you have a radically different perspective than most on here. Which is a good thing!

Everyone needs to calm down. Sometimes this place can get a little too liberal and it's only by embracing the successes of both sides we can find Utopia.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7964 on: November 04, 2012, 08:56:16 pm »

I'm learning new things from arguments with Kon.

The problem is, some of you guys are letting it get personal. Someone's refusal to recognize simple facts  does not make your statements worthless, or justify personal attacks. As for his insultive behavior, might I suggest thicker skin? It is a good thing if the deliberately and willingly clueless find what you have to say as silly.

But for providing the info to the troll, it's like people who reply to requests for information to "search more". I use forum searches and see lots of instructions to do so with little of whatever I am looking for. It's nice to provide information for others, even if it goes nowhere with the one who sparked it.

I regret that I initially responded to insults with insults. I should not have done that. More recently I have been careful not to be disrespectful toward those who are being disrespectful toward me.
I don't think you're a troll, I just think you have a radically different perspective than most on here. Which is a good thing!

Everyone needs to calm down. Sometimes this place can get a little too liberal and it's only by embracing the successes of both sides we can find Utopia.

We can disagree on who has been most insulting or more disrespectful in the past. But I hope that going forward we can refrain from insulting each other and being disrespectful toward each other.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2012, 08:58:01 pm by Kon »
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