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[Seriyu]

There's now a guild! Sign up on alexina, go to Port Cobh, find the guildstone labeled "Fjallheim", click, apply, maybe include something so we know you're from B12.

There's a steam group for dwarf fortress + mabinogi, and here it is! Dwarf Fortress - Mabinogi Chapter. Join it! It makes getting together a lot easier.

DISABLE THE NAGLE ALGORITHM. It's completely harmless and many have done it with no ill effects. Instructions are here.

If you're starting a new character and don't intend to spend real money on mabinogi, avoid using anything that mentions "premium service" in the description, usually bags and such, and be aware that your bank space will shrink by half eventually. Try to keep all your stuff in the bank on the left side of the bank section, or you may lose access to it!

ALSO! Make your char age 17 unless you intend to pay for rebirths. I could explain it more in depth but it makes things easier down the road. Long story short after you reach above 100 cumulative level you can only rebirth at age 20, and that makes it take less time. It won't kill your character, again, but you'll have to wait a while at a rediculous level before you can rebirth when it runs out. You can also rebirth to an older age I think? Not sure. So if you made a char at age 10, try rebirthing to 17. Dunno if it'll work, but.

Mabinogi is a free korean MMO, that manages to stand out amongst an admittantly lacklustre genre.
It suffers a little from the freemium syndrome but you can certainly play the entire game without spending money.
What sets it apart then, you may be asking your computer screen for some reason?
(NOTE: If you just want the link and don't want to hear me rant about game details and junk then just skip to the end of the post.)

1. The combat system

Now the combat isn't amazing compared to say vindictus and dungeon fighter online, and it is far from being an "action MMO", but it was made long before those games to be fair and is still wonderful for the genre. If you just rush in and try to combo things to death, you will get MAULED by every enemy ever. Very skill based, for instance, use the defense skill to get attacked and take minimum damage (usually 1 point), so you can counter with a combo, use counterattack to avoid damage entirely and return it to them, use windmill for a huge melee AOE, etcetcetc. I'm only going over melee skills because that's how I play the game. Magic and ranged have entirely different strategies, although you're generaly going to melee enemies at least a little no matter your path, usually through skills (counterattack, windmill, getting enemies off of you after a defense with a melee combo)

2. Crafting

You can make an entire charecter out of the crafting, hauling materials to people, making stuff out of the materials, selling the stuff, etc.
A single good crafter can haul in quite a bit of income and get a large advantage as a result. It can be a bit tedious, but little
minigames for some of the crafting breaks it up a bit. Also important is that leveling up your crafting skills does give you
stats that can be useful for combat, which leads into the next point...

3. The skill advancement system

You will have to earn your skill level ups. For instance to go from rank F to rank E you have to...

Use the skill successfully.    100 times.
Critical Hit with Smash.    50 times.​
Finishing blow with Smash.    50 times.

You only ACTUALLY have to do about half of that, but if you fufill all of the objectives entirely you get an EXP bonus
to go with your skill rank. And frankly that isn't as much as you'd think, it'll fly by. For that particular rank, you don't
get any stat boost to go with your new skill rank, but let's jump forward aaaalllll the way to rank 8 of smash. You get +1 strength
and +1 will for leveling that. Skill ranks are where the majority of your permanant stats are going to come from. You use
AP to level these skills, you get trace amounts from levels, and most of it from.....

4. The Aging system

Every week you get a year older, get a big load of stats and AP from it, once you hit about 25 years old, you start gaining less stats
but you never stop gaining at least some of them from a birthday. You can also rebirth yourself but there's no point to it unless you are older then 17, as the free rebirth limits you to rebirthing to the age 17. If you pay you can rebirth to as young as ten years old and change your appearence.

5. THIS GAME HAS A PLOT

And not a terrible one either. Kind've anime, but we'll get to that later. There's a "main plotline" quest chain and you gain various special abilities for running through. They also have things called "RP quests" which are basically flashbacks that you play through as entirely different characters. Partying is nessacery for these quests. Bosses in the plot quest chain tend to have fairly large and complex bosses. If nothing else they're fun to look at.


Now that you've read or skimmed that, let's get to the bad.

1. This game is pretty anime

If you don't mind anime things then you'll probably be fine, it's not terribly rediculous. If you have a low tolerance for this sort've thing
you might buzz around youtube and find some screenshots and whatnot before you jump in to make sure the actual game is worth it for you.

2. This game is not up to date for newer windows OSes

Windows vista and 7 do NOT play nice with this game. At all. You can still PLAY them in the OS, but do note this and be prepared to
work out a few tech problems if they crop up. I personally haven't had much of an issue on 7, but some people say they litterally
can't play the game at all without turning off User Account Control. Your milage may vary.

3. This game can seem kind've unfair at times if you insist on soloing

Later dungeons will have ranged enemies, which attack you simultainiously while a melee enemy attacks you. The combat is balenced around 1 on 1. As a result this tends to result in a lot of cheap deaths from such setups until you finally work out a system that works for you. Generally if you want to play through the plot you're REALLY going to want a team, as some quests in it require multiple people.



So with all that said, here's the download link. Use the direct download link that's hidden below the giant button, as the giant button uses pando media booster to download the game (I think). I wouldn't call it malware, but it does basically seed a torrent for the client without your permission, which is a huge deal if you are on limited bandwith. 

WE ARE PLAYING ON ALEXINA! Go there.

WIKI LINK ALTERNATE WIKI LINK IF WIKI LINK ISN'T WORKING

Table of Contents (Advice and such things lie within) - Look below a few posts of some of these for short addendum's or mistakes I made on the matters at hand in the post.
Combat changes due to the genesis patch
A more detailed new archery recap
Information on the new skill set for knuckles
How to make sense of weapon stats
Crafting skill overview part 1
Crafting skill overview part 2
Race overview
Minor basic magic overview
Advanced magic overview
"Class" overview
Alchemist skill overview
Alchemist skill overview 2 - the return
Lore, part 1
How to get gold
Basic melee combat
Combat skill overview
Advanced melee combat
Heavy Stander, Mana Deflector, Natural shield - A treatise
Spirit Weapons and you
Solea Geologic Survey
Dungeon Running 101 - An introduction+General advice
Dungeon Running 101-2 Equipment and supply needs
Dungeon Running 102 - Skillset roles in the modern dungeon enviroment
Dungeon Running 102-2 An addendum
Bard Destiny patch overview
Dungeon Running 103 - Aggro Management and its' effects on the surrounding populous
Dungeon Running 103-2 - An Addendum
Dungeon Running 103-3 - Windmill Dynamics
Dungeon Running 103-4 - Advanced Windmilling
Dungeon Dynamics 241 - Alby
Dungeon Dynamics 306 - Ciar
Dungeon Dynamics 442 - Math
Dungeon Dynamics 646 - Rabbie
Dungeon Dynamics 3345 - Barri
Advanced dungeoning - The undead and their effect on your body and soul
Attempting to combat an enormous pile of sentient boulders in hand to hand combat - A partial tutorial
Luck and how it works.
Transformation overview. Paladins are not strictly worse then Dark Knights, despite popular opinion. Read this to find out why.
Min-Maxing and you.
Suffer not the ancient to live.
This is a sneaking mission.

USER LIST

(ForumName) charecter name - server
(Seriyu) Mobliz - Giant - Alexina
(Seriyu) Narshe - Elf - Alexina
(Seriyu) Bariaus - Human - Alexina(Main)
(Aoi) Tistia - Elf - Alexina
(girlinhat) Laur - Elf - Alexina (Main)
(Singularity125) Xandak - Human - Alexina
(Alexwazer) Donryu - Human - Alexina(Main)
(Patchy) Dlynn - Human - Alexina(Main)
(Ozymandias) Ozythesage - Alexina(Main)
(ElfEater) Maxyeskly - Giant - Alexina
(Alexwazer) Seikyu - Elf - Alexina
(Alexwazer) Kyunoko - Human - Alexina
(majikero)Acolyte0 - Human - Alexina(Main)
(SirAaronIII)Direzie - Human - Alexina(Main)
(adwarf)Adwarf7 - Elf - Alexina
(Skyrunner)Nocneah - Human - Alexina(Main)
(Naxza)Naxza - Human? - Alexina
(Ibid Straydrink)Ibid - Human - Alexina(Main)
(Baiju)Huodi - Human? - Alexina
(dei)Nidde - Giant - Alexina
(dei)Bijuni - Human - Alexina(main)
(dei)Moiya - Elf - Alexina
(dei)Ruinaei - Elf - Alexina
(Carcanken)Conius - Human - Alexina
(Sonlirain)Sonli - Giant - Alexina
(Koja)Coffeemancer - Human? - Alexina
(Aklyon)Aklyon - Human - Alexina
(Koja)Craftery - Human - Alexina
(Ibid)Dibbi - Giant - Alexina
(Graknorke) Graknorke - Human - Alexina
(Skyrunner) Nocberry - elf - Alexina
(majikero) Popurii - Elf - Alexina
(JimDale) Etherwind - Elf - Alexina
(Myroc) Myroc - Human? - Alexina
(fred1248) Astrind - Human? - Alexina

Dungeon Run Archive
Rabbie Dungeon Run 1 or "A Vile Force of Darkness has Arrived!"
Math/Rundal Dungeon Run 1 or "Cats & Dogs"
Ciar Dungeon Run 1 or "Rats."
Peaca Dungeon Run 1 or "it hurts"
Coill Dungeon Run 1 or "NAVI NOOOOOOOO YOU'RE HURTING ME STOP"

[Sirus]

I think I played this once, back when it was beta. I might get back into it again, now that my EVE trial is about to run out and I can't afford to continue.

Is there an age limit? As in, once you reach a certain age you stop growing or have to make a new character?

[Carcanken]

Game is good, just cant seem to patch anymore, always has an error.

[Seriyu]

@Sirus: You are not age limited, although it's reccomended you rebith fairly regularly as I think you start losing physical stats after a certain age. There's nothing stopping you from being a sixhundred year old though, no.

@Carcanken: What's the error?

EDIT: Incidentally there are currently a couple of idjits spamming megaphones. This usually doesn't happen and should be over by the end of the day, so don't let it scare you off.

[Patchy]

Used to play this one all the time. Had chars on ruaria and tarlach server. My most developed chars are on tarlach though. Played it off and on since g1 or 2 or so. I could probably reinstall it again and give it another go if there are enough b12'ers to play with. And could use any of my old chars or even fresh ones if need be.

Edit:
A pic I found of my ruari char.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Seriyu]

Okay, apparently the friend's list is broken in mabinogi, has been for about a week. Feel free to whisper me for help if you need/want it. (command is @playernamehere message here) Maybe will be fixed? You never know with nexon.

And Patchy, you've gotten farther then G1 so you've done way more then me.

I always get stuck around the bangor dungeon section.

[SirAaronIII]

I played a bit, way back then. I forgot what world my character was on but I remember being rather good.

Then I went to Sidhe Sneachta (spelling?) and got my ass handed to me.

[Patchy]

Yeah definately got past the g1 and 2 storylines and even did bits of the later ones too. Though it has also been years since I last played, so memory is a bit iffy at the moment. Think the last time I played was late 09. So there has undoubtedly been some new stuff added.

Anyways, downloading it on my laptop now. So I'll probably be on sometime this weekend, trying to shake my rust off.

[majikero]

I remember this game. Cost money to make new characters so be careful about the first one. It has awesome combat. Plenty of things to do. Traveling and item farming can and will get boring after awhile and following the story quest from g1 is kinda impossible without keeping track of your own progress, otherwise you will lost track of which quest you already did.

I had two accounts here. Forgot the password though. Also, If you start human, you can get free giant or elf character card if you visit their respective homes. You can only choose one because of the giant/elf rivalry.

You can rebirth for free in any age as long as you don't change anything else.

[Sirus]

Had another question: Are career paths or whatever exclusive? Say I want to get into the crafting business, but still want to fight monsters and go through the quests. Would I be forced to pick one or the other?

Also, does "re-birthing" allow you to keep skills or stats, or is it like completely starting over each time?

[SirAaronIII]

Hm, if someone else already has a character name on a server, then you try to make that same name on another server, will it work?
Like, could I make a Seriyu on tarlach instead of where the real Seriyu is?

[majikero]

AP is needed to level skills. I think it's limited or you get it slower late game. It's best to focus on one combat skill you'll use more often but it's nice to have other combat skills too. You'll keep all stat increase except for age related boost. Skills will increase the stats they need so increasing skills that use the same stat is good.

You can level all the crafting skills  but it is pretty dull. There is a skill for gathering the raw materials, a skill for refining the raw materials to crafting materials, then you have to level the crafting skill itself before you get anything you can use. There is a skill that helps all the gathering and crafting skills though. And your bag is limited in size, like Diablo I think. Money also needs inventory space.

There is also magic and alchemy too but don't know about them.

[azurelao]

Mabinogi is...different.

Like it was said, its very anime-ish, but also quite fun.

Character creation is simple, for the most part, and aside from a "focus" you get when creating your character, there really isnt a job system. Said focus is either warrior, mage, or ranged, with each focus doubling the rate at which you improve skills related to melee/magic/ranged

There are a ton of skills. some are useful, some not quite so useful, but there there anyways. want to make your own armor? you can go out, mine, smelt the ore you get, and craft your armor. itll take a while, but it can happen. want to be a mage? theres a ton of spells (including awesome spells like ice spear and fireball. thunder is especially nice). want to be an alchemist and use a flamethrower/water cannon while summoning a golem to fight with? you can do it. however, being a pure mage is rather hard, due to mana regenerating slowly. but theres potions and weapon mods for that.

whenever you level a skill, it boosts your stats in addition to its getting stronger. this applies to both combat and non-combat skills. in fact, in order to get better at what they do, youll often find that swordsmen are also blacksmiths/tailors, while mages have some skill at herbalism and other skills.

As for aging, you get to choose from age 10-17 when starting. every saturday you age 1 year, up to pretty much infinite. when you age you get status bonuses, as well as AP (which is used to level up skills), until you turn 25. When you hit age 20 (maybe 21) you can rebirth your character for free.

Rebirthing basically resets your characters AGE, LOOKS, and LEVEL. skills/stats are affected as well, but only the points you gained from aging are affected. points/stats gained from trained skills, however, still affect you. so, essentially, you gradually get stronger and stronger as you train, even if youre just rebirthed.

as for the story, its actually pretty good. get a little creepy sometimes when you log in and BAM, cutscene, but otherwise its not bad. In fact, some of the best loot can be gotten from doing story missions. after doing generation 2 of the story, you get to transform into a Paladin, which gives a MASSIVE boost to your stats, as well as looks cool. after playing generation 3, you can turn into a dark knight, which has different skills, at the cost of never being able to transform into a paladin again. Thankfully, you can skip the story if you want, and still be able to transform, but the quest to get the transformations is a LOT harder than if you had just gone through the storyline

As a korean MMO, mabinogi can be a little grind-y. however, given that you can pretty much do whatever you want, the only stuff you grind for is the stuff that you already WANT to grind for, instead of stuff you HAVE to. Levels go surprisingly fast, and theres even a secondary leveling system (sort of) that gives you levels for finding/sketching artifacts and creatures, and doing special quests. combat, while being solo-able, is often very fast, very harsh, and quite unforgiving. if you tangle with something that you dont know how to kill, you WILL be taken out. that said, its also fun when you level up a skill enough to just blast through the enemies that were previously taking you out, although they still can if you get lax (goblins, im looking at you)

As for the community, it can be bad at times. however, it can also be quite good. its just a matter of who you find and when, really. and its always fun to see 100+ people gather for an event and basically tank through everything


overall, id say that, while it can be quite frustrating, it can also be quite rewarding. if youre looking for an mmo where you can be whatever you want to be, while also exploring/gatherring/just muckin about then you might want to try mabinogi

[Girlinhat]

I'd have to find my account, but I'm on there with like a dozen pets and some fair gear and skills.  I mainly play an elf sniper, love 'dem bows, even payed out big to get... what is it.  Ring Bow, I think?  It's a great bow, I remember, and I got it soul'd for bonus power.  Probably way too young to get a soul weapon, but I'm a dwarf at heart.  Go big or go home.

I'd be up to playing again, but you'd have to PM me here on the forums to get my attention for it.

[HLBeta]

I had a friend who played in the beta way back when. It looked appealing and played well into my crafter habits while also exploiting my love of the cell shade. Ultimately, I passed over the game because the aging system seemed designed to cripple free players by making them go senile (since level-ups stop giving any stats after a certain age). With free reincarnation I may actually be able to enjoy this in earnest. My thanks to the OP for bringing it to my attention again.